Thank you
It now works for the average schmendrick (me) that has no MODS installed (other than this one now).
I have been trying to make zero MODS to the coding. I can get them installed just fine but then when a new version of the UBB comes out I managed to mess everything up and have lost everything several times over the last two years.
Which of course has caused us to lose many members.
So I don't do any hacking of the actual files anymore.
If a "mod" is going to be done by me it has to be something that can be done in such a way that it does not alter the member files (main cause of problems for me) and can easily be redone with an upgrade (thus does not mess with the posts either).
One of these days I'll get into the templates thing and figure some stuff out but for now, so as not to chase members away I have to leave things alone.
Thanks for the help on this one!