*LOL* []/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif[/] Maybe we are... probably... but I think (as mentioned with different words in the other thread here) that it would be best to concentrate on perfecting the main release first, and when there is some idle time, then development of the alternative would be feasible. By the way, I have to admit I'm one of the Links 2.0 users who don't use templates... BUT I started on templates, then switched because I found it easier to edit script files, than those template files. Might just be a matter of taste, but from a programmers point of few I wonder if it wouldn't be a whole lot easier to do without templates... and for efficiency... just wondering...