UBB currently suffers from code bloat.
vB suffers from less than effecient coding (but nowhere near as bad as UBB) and a terrible, terrible method of storing messages that can cause incredible slowdowns.
UBB is written in mostly straightforward Perl, no more complex than the worst PHP scripts.
I have not examined vB's coding for quality or understandability (only the databases), so my opinion is based on second hand reports.
UBB6 is proving to be much more than a simple code cleanup according to Ted's latest report.
I have also heard that vB is getting the database problems fixed.
The time for this debate is not now - when UBB6 is out and the next major release of vB is released, then bring this up.
Right now arguing is a moot point... Choose the product you feel will be better for your site.
I personally prefer UBB, but I'm just a bit biased.
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