UBB.Developers Forums Announcements Announcements Next Generation Product

Licenses are indefinate, only member area access expires; which can always be renewed with a valid license.

THAT'S what I want to know about... I JUST purchased a lifetime UBB Member Area/License deal within the last year, and I am wondering if BOTH the license AND the support will carry over...

Thanks,
Clay

PS - I think the DB backend and new codebase will be a killer combo!

Both will.

I do too. Nothings better than UBB Clasic. Now, Infopop has yet to prove me wrong, before I change my board over.eh? And, I hate PHPBB had so much troubble with that board.

However, Infopop going to something php? That is bound to be better than stupid other php boards out there!

Now, there's just one thing I want on the new product. That is an admin and moderator cpanel links that appear (only) under a member account that is set up as an admin level rank or moderator ranks.

My Phpbb board had a link to the admin panel that appeared (only) for those who were set as admin level rank members. Thats something my UBB Classic does not have : :rolleyes:

Let's have stuff like this on the new product. Also what's with not being able to hide the forums from guest, and members accept only being able to restrict access via password? That is something I want to see changed in the new Infopop build of php type product before I chage over. Just something to think about!!

"Now, there's just one thing I want on the new product. That is an admin and moderator cpanel links that appear (only) under a member account that is set up as an admin level rank or moderator ranks."

Ok. Done. That was easy.

" Also what's with not being able to hide the forums from guest"

Ok. Done.


You'll want to check out the .threads feature list. Remember this product is a merger of all that's good in both .classic and threads.

A lot of the stuff you're looking for is already acounted for.

Here is what else I have thought about for the new product. On my phpbb board I used to run, I had away to set up usergroups and set permissions of indivual forums via usergroups.

For example: My usergroup "Global Moderators" was set as a moderator of each forum. This meant that anyone who was a member of that group could moderate any forum in the board.

There are a lot of features in phpbb I miss that I do not have the use of in UBB Classic 6.7.2

There isn't a "user groups" feature for the UBB; however there is a Global Moderators (MegaModerators) modification located in the mod forum.

Also, if you need a feature, file a request.

What mod forum? I dont have a mod forum or an admin forum in this new UBB Board of mine. However i can create these two forums on the new board.

What I am talking about is the usergroups permissions feature to be set as mod of any forum or forums I choose. It would enable me to add new members to the group and their permissions will be updated via the usergroups persmissions set up.

He was asking about the new software, which will have user groups, as threads currently has it.

Ahh, I was talking about THIS software (UBB.Classic 6.7.2) in the UBBDev mod forum has a modification for Global Moderators.

As for features of the new product, as Charles stated, if it's in either of the two downloadable products (UBB.Classic or UBB.Threads) it should make it into the new product (so long as it doesn't break cache).

I don't believe that they're focusing on any "new" features for the first release of new product, so if it's not a feature now it'd probably be unlikely to be one.

But as Ian stated, it's in Threads so it should be in new product.

Yes, Devin, it's already in threads, so it'll be in the new product as well.

Gee, that was so easy.

Good News then I will most likely upgrade to the new product then if I can have all of the cool stuff that threads has plus the totally awsome customizable features that UBB Classic has!

Yeh, should be good times for all when the new product comes out; I can't wait .

Anyone have an update or more specific release date?

It's awesome and Spring 2005

I searched but couldn't find and info on new webhost requirements (in addition to PHP4 and MySQL4).

Will it be significantly different?
Will it cost more assuming full transfer of all threads?

It's a cross between Threads and Classic. It won't be any more different than Threads is to Classic.

It will probably cost more, although any current owner of a license will already have a license for the new software.

Thanks Ian, but I was referring to webhosting costs

As long as your host meets the requirements (PHP 4.3+, MySQL4.0+), there should be no other costs involved on that side.

Will this new UBB be able to compete with vB3 and IPB2? Will it be resonably priced? If the answers to those questions are yes and UBB is making a long awaited comback, then as soon as it is out I will gladly switch over from my vB to UBB because I have always liked UBB but I thought you guys were done and out, especialy when you came out with that eve crap and I thought that was your next big thing, those hosting options are the most ridiculously over priced hosting options I have ever seen in my life. I dont care if they came with UBB.x the prices were outrageous. UBB.classic and UBB.threads are both over priced considering they can barely compeat with phpBB let alone vBulletin and IPB. I cant wait to see what you guys come up with hopfuly it will bring UBB back to the top

Unfortunately, I belive it will be about the same price as Threads. But remember: QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!

we have no information on this yet. It could very well be aligned on the price of ubb.classic or even cheaper in order to compete head to head with vb.

One thing we can count on is our licenses for both products being able to be converted to the new product without any additional charge.

This means that if you have a license with either product that you'll be able to just pay a member area renewal to download the new product (from what I got out of the anouncement anyway).

Thats very disapointing...still I imagin it's January and demos of this new product should be released soon so, when they are I guess that will be the deciding factor if I switch to UBB. I rember that before I learned webdesign and coding I loved UBB forums. Once I had learned webdesign and coding eveyone I asked had instructed me that UBB was unreasonably expensive, blew and was no longer the top forum softwear and to either go with IPB or vB and I went with vB.

Well, I figure it like this; you get a base package from Infopop and you can apply modifications to it with the large community here at UBBDev... No feature? ask for a mod ... Heck, that's how some mod's make it as a feature...

Are any of the betas on the web yet for us to see and play with?

I couldn't wait and made the switch to VB. I'm a long time supporter of UBB.Classic ever since version 5.x came out. I upgraded to 6.5 when it came out, was planning to do a 6.7 upgrade but waited until the smilie mod to come out and upgrade. The mod showed up on UBBDev, but it was an incorrect link, so I PM'ed one of the staff members and posted in the thread to ask for the correct link. No one replied to my post or PM (PM was read BTW), and I waited for months. I really hope you guys can come up with something good, because VB is years and years ahead of UBB from what I can see.

Steven replied to my post on Infopop Nation that the next-gen product is in private beta currently. "Private beta," I would assume, entails the number of people who are allowed to download and install the product. But the whole point of a beta is to get it tested by a decent number of people...

So...

Does anyone have a viewable site running from the next-gen product yet? Can you provide links to said site?

My users are starting to demand that I move away from Eve because of the slowness (no matter how much I personally may like it), so I need to start thinking about alternatives. And I'm hoping the next-gen downloadable will be my solution. So if anyone's got a site I can look at just for a basic overview of the script, I would greatly appreciate it.

EDIT: I was impatient and didn't read the few recent posts about the same question. Sorry. You'd think having as many posts as I do would automatically preclude me from making n00b mistakes like that. Apparently not. Anyhoo... if anything's changed since the last time someone asked for a demo site... you know what to do.

---Jamin

Wow... apparently my post has been deleted from Infopop Nation. God forbid I mention the fact that my users think Eve is slow. Even with that whole paragraph about how much I personally love Infopop, too.

I'm so glad I got a warning and all. (Oh, wait, I didn't...)

I'm really not sure what to say at this point.

I guess this sorta says something about my loyalty to Infopop...

---Jamin

According to the Infopop News Letter there is a "feature complete" date towards the end of March. As for Private Beta think of it as an alpha period to assist in coding of the overall project (finding bugs, requesting updates etc).

At this time there are 0 public beta boards to tinker with; however, some of them will be:
http://www.undergroundnews.com/
http://www.ianspence.com/
http://www.nightly.net/

and possibly flave?

you mean flare

oh, did they change their logo?

I've been using vBulletin for so long now.. I think Infopop starting thinking about too many different things to maintain their lead. They started it all.. I hope they come back with another great product...

Hey Sal How are the 80's treating you?

Hi Allen! Oh, God.. There's so much drama there.. The site is still doing well, but my new baby is the Cadillac site.. Boy, did that thing take off like a rocket.. Otherwise.. You're the only reason I stuck with UBB for so long when I did.. You made my boring message board something very interesting.. Thank you.

You're welcome Good to see you around, come see us again in a couple months when we have something to show off

I'll be waiting.. I signed up to be a beta tester but somebody went insane and decided not to get back to me. heh. I've only been using these message boards since the mid 80s. (Yes, before the internet as we know it)

I've been watching this Next Gen thing rather intensely for a while now, and it's very exciting!

Maybe someone can clear up one question I have... I know a lot is still up in the air, but if "feature complete" is supposed to be near the end of March, what would that mean exactly? Public beta? Or should we expect to wait into April or beyond for a public beta?

I know private beta is going on now, and it's great to know that bugs are being worked out, but even though I've been keeping an eye on the private beta sites I know of, I still haven't managed even a tiny peek at anything NG. Should we expect something to "pop up" (in unfinished form) before the end of March, or am I getting this all backwards?

I'm fine with being patient, just want to get a better handle on what sort of timeline we're looking at.