UBB.Developers Forums General Discussion Chit Chat Future of UBB

What do you think about the new Version of UBB called 6.0! Will it be a great think for us user and UBB admins or will it be just an Update like the other 20 done by Infopop this Year ?

I'am really looking forward for this Version coming next Year, the Beta will start on 25. December, is it allowed for the Betatesters to tell about the Software? Does anybody know about it?

And another Question: Could you please implement a german Part in UBBDEV for german UBB Hackers? After Infopop closed the German Supportforum, here will be a nice place for all the peoples looking for help!!!!

Matze

As has been said, UBB 6 is a rewrite of the internals, to make it faster and tighter. Something that has been long overdue.

There are new features going in, but not tons of them. The focus for 6.0 is optimization. Once that has come out, then new features will be put in with subsequent releases. The design of 6 is to allow new features to be easier to implement..

There are threads over at scriptkeeper as to what features ted has talked about so far. Other then that it is strictly confidental between Ted and the alpha testers.

Once it goes to beta, the beta testers are being adhered to strict confidentiality also, until 6 is released to the public.

--mark

Nice response Mark... no one on the beta team is allowed, yet anyways, to divulge anything about the software... everyone hsa to rely on the thread at scriptkeeper for any info on this...

Matze, why was the German forum closed down? We are interested in supporting a German forum here as long as it complies with Infopop guidelines... talk to me if you guys are serious.

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

Dear Alan and the rest of all infopopers & UBBfriends,

it seems, that there is a problem between the support of the german translated Version (thinkfactory.de) and infopop. I don't know what happens, but stefan did a good Job for all the Persons owning a german License. And now there is only a spain / english Version for UBB availible. What about the thousand's of installation done in german language? No more Updates for the next time or may i translate a Software for about 200$ by myself? I'm not interesseted in that.

I think, the german ubb scene will completly die if there isn't a quick change.
I'm thinking of selling this software if there won't come a clear Word from Infopop. But not as told us about the Version 6.0 from the summer so far . And if this won't come soon...europeen Market is dead for infopopers
What about the Beta Test for UBB? What about the Release 5.47c - Stefan said it will be finished the same date as the Betatest start's, but what now?

Your's

Matze

The German Version is up to v5.47a right now... I am not sure what problems Stefan had with Infopop, but if there's enough interest in the German community, we'd be more than happy to assist with a German forum. There's quite a bit here than can be used for any language ubb and everything else can be translated...

Have someone (preferrably 2 people) that moderated at the German forum to contact us...

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

But it's not fair, People paid much money for the software to fix it themselves? What about the fixes done by infopop the 5.47! I think 5.47c will have a security Bugfix too!If we are working for extensions on ubb, it's O.K. But working on the main Softwarepart for using it and paying the most money anybody want to have for this kind of software isn't fair, or would you pay 200$ for Software in german and translate in with several hours of hard Work to use it?
I couldn't find any nice place to be for an german UBB fanatic, only some german forums offer hacking/coding or any other support, but they're bad on my opinion! And it's quite hard for me, writing in english all the Problems i have because i often did not know the correkt word in english.
What about a forum, without any moderation? Must there always be a moderator?

Matze

First and foremost, realize that infopop isn't erquired to translate the board for you, nor or you required to buy their product...

If the German users want their own UBB code hacking site, why doesn't someone make one? THere never was any hacking site previous to this year, and then someone decided to start one -- you could be a leader and start one.

Also, note that 5.47 is quite recent. I don't believe there were any security fixes through the entire series. I think that it only involved cookie stuff and what not. And 5.47c hardly contained any changes. Navaho even stated that you shouldn't need to upgrade for the most part in a message posted here...

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:: Who is Andy?

By the way, the German forum is only TEMPORARILY closed. They are currently working on finding a moderator for the German forum that speaks German. Once found, the forum will re-open.

By the way I share atom911's sentiments.

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I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
darksaber.hispeed.com

if you support more, you sell your product to more people. infopop does not create ubb for fun right? if they get more customers they get more money. and not all of the people want to translate after paying for it...

Of course, but that doesn't mean they have to translate. Maybe the time it would require for an actual member of infopop to learn German and then translate every version as it is released is simply not worth the extra licenses it may bring in...

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:: Who is Andy?

Temporarily closed or not... we could still provide the support for a German forum here if the interest is there... simple enough.


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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

If you build it, they will come.


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I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.
darksaber.hispeed.com

An excellent quote, though not always true



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:: Who is Andy?

A white screen by the looks of it


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Bahahahahah!




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a.k.a. Neal Ulen | Webmaster - GamerForums.Net | Senior Editor - Moviefan Online

That is odd, was working yesterday -- will have to see what is wrong



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:: Who is Andy?

heheheheheee!

anyone tried this?

http://www.whoisandy.com/cgi-bin/in...index.cgi/index.cgi/index.cgi/index.cgi/

Think at the other side! You buy software for about 200$ in the USA. After 3 months, the Softwaredealer closed the Store and leaves you alone. No more Updates in native language are availibe and i think the most german users have the same Proble as infopop - they don't speak the others language. But the User who payed the price is just looking to heaven and hope.. And by the Way the main Company still exist and is your license Partner, but no one speaks the language, they sold thousands of license? That's crazy for me and i don't understand!!! That's all.

My suggestion for a german hacking Part is just because of the near the most programmers of these wonderful hacks!

As long as the Forum is closed i opend a Forum at my UBB . It will be closed after the diskussion at scriptkeeper.com is done and the forum reopens! Goodnight and merry christmas to everybody

Matze

It's very easy to translate the UBB into german with a text compare tool.



Yes, there is a security fix for IIS (Windows NT/2000 Server) in UBB 5.47b/c.

Philipp

Just out of curiosity, which part of Infopop's "Temporarily closed" message is making you think that you're SOL?

It's temporary, and they are working on an optimal solution for the German users. No reason to freak out. And in the meantime, Michael Farris has posted a message in that forum that says any correspondances may go directly to him for the time being.

--mark

There were many things told by Infopop, around ver. 6.0 since last summer (btw. since i bought my license in April, everybody talks about 6.0) but nothing to see, feel or use! Now there is an action, a bad action for the german customers everybody see and feel right at the moment. There is no more german support Forum, no more good german hack database.... perhabs Stefan did a very good job for all the people who bought the license at thinkfactory.de! I don't know any people from the g.-supportforum who don't like this guy How long long will this situation be exist? Since January? February? Since anybody of you infopopers learned german?

Perhabs you can tell me what
means, it doesn't sound very nice! You see, my english isn't perfekt so i don't understand everythink you or other people write down here!

Matze

Future of the UBB: Doomed

JK, I think the UBB will be used more wisely by the time 6.0 comes out. That's the time I have to upgrade my rusty 5.44...

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Sure there is, just not for the general public. Yet. Beta testing is supposed to begin tomorrow for selected people. And the Alpha team has already see, felt, and used 6.0.

Relax about the german forum, they're working on a solution. They have no one at the moment that speaks German, and they are finding someone appropriate. I don't understand why that is difficult to understand, or such a crisis. When they find someone, the German forum will be opened back up.

--mark

Beta testing, hmmmm....

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:: Who is Andy?

Well at least I hope that version 6 of ubb will support langage templates,

I am bored of translating the darn thing in French all the time !

(or maybe I should put an online english course so that french people could use an english version of UBB )

6.0 Beta detected!

[admin edit] hey matze, this is supposed to be a "secret" [/admin edit]

All Features are known from several Hacks as i see so far. I'm not a betatester, but the design is nothing for me . But i like the new Trashcan Icon like Windows ME / 2000

Matze

hm, ... looks nice, especially the "Posts: | From: | Registered: | IP: Logged" line.
i think i will do this on my board too, that's no problem. the design is quite interesting too, i am looking forward for the board.



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greetz
h4p3
OC Austria | www.overclockers.at

I don't think that this will be a secret much longer! I saw some more Boards around the net and some german betatester did not understand, what infopop means with
... I read about it, somebody told me the way he understood the Infopop Way:
translated on the fly

hehe, very good Planing! perhabs i found a version to download soon, then i will inform you by mail Marc/Allan

Matze

Anybody knows a website currently beta testing version 6 ? I would like to take a look at it

Sweet dude thanks!

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:: My Website :: My Board ::

the search still sucks though, they need to make it into a checkbox list so you can search 1 or 2 forums only instead of have to search 1 for or all fourms...morons...

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:: My Website :: My Board ::

Morons?

First of all, you are seeing a beta version, not a finished version. There are some features and enhancments which are still not fully developed, or not there at all. While Ted doesn't mind if people see the beta version, I hardly think anyone outside of the beta test group is qualified to make any kind of judgement, as they don't know what is up with each particular piece of the puzzle (stage its in, how it should work etc)

Second, you can only do so much within the limitations of a flat file setup. Flat files are not a RDBM. You still have to open each file and search through it.

Third, if they're such "morons", you're welcome to show us the much better system that you youself came up with.

--mark

Preach preacha!

You guys are looking at software in its beta stages... unless you have a copy in your hands and are reading the forums at the beta test site, you do not know what's going on with it...

I like quite a few of the new features, some that are being added this weekend...

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

That is quite a harsh statement there. Why don't you just bring up that suggestion to InfoPop at their scriptkeeper forums, instead of just pointing it out and calling them morons.

And I totally agree with Mark, we can't judge this product yet, it's still in beta.


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I think the beta UBB looks great and very fast too.

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yes, of course. It's very fast ....

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TopBoard.de

Not faster for me...well, im not a perl programmer, im just learning right now, for while UBB is a good board, it can be made better, And what im talking about is the search, the freeware hack for a search had it check box stile, the advantage of have checkboxes is that lets say youhave 100 forums, and you think its, lets say 1 of 5 forums, instead of searching just one forum at a time or all 100 forums, you can search 5 forums only, the only downside to this is if you have 100 forums, it gets kinda length, but most forums dont have that many in them. Just a suggestion that i think would make UBB better.

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:: My Website :: My Board ::

Oh, and sorry for calling you morons, i shouldn't have, i apologize.

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:: My Website :: My Board ::

CE, I don't mean to be rude - but have you any idea the amount of CPU overhead you'd need to search through 5 forums worth of data at once?

Say each forum had 200 topics, with 10 posts in each. Thats 2000 db entries x 5 = 10,000 db queries on 1000 different files. In short, you are asking a cgi script to tie up a server while it opens a file, reads through each entry do a byte by byte search match, add any results to a variable then close the file. 1000 times.

Believe me, Infopop are more than capable of making a search that's faster than vB's search function. The problem is that you'd have toast for a server after searching. Imagine a busy forum with 20 people searching. You've now got 20,000 files to open at once.

I'd rather have a slow search than a p*ssed sysadmin and a hefty bill.

With any feature, a good script writer has to weigh off convenience against what's realistic.