#67612
03/01/2001 3:00 AM
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scattermidget
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I know ubbdev used to be another site (I'm bad w/ urls :D), but I'm curious: how exactly did a Texan, a Pennsylvanian and a Wisconsinite conjure up such a creature?
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#67613
03/01/2001 12:56 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
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I type Like navaho
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A long time ago, in a land far far away... I bought my first UBB in Sept-Oct '99 after reading a story about it in INC. Magazine about someone touting how good it was for site "community" - the catchword of the day at the time. My favorite site glassdog had just installed one too... so it sounded like a good idea for my stand318 site. It was 3 months before I even installed it and opened it to the public. I read the first couple of posts at SK about a new "hacking" site going up in early January, but wasn't interested at the time because a) I figured they wouldn't last long after IP found out about it... and b) I could barely set my ubb up, let alone make changes to all that code that I couldn't make head or tails out of... When they were still open in February, I began visiting, wanting to learn how to do some of that cool stuff. In March I signed up and installed my first "hack" - "welcome last user to register" - very difficult at the time... But after reading countless hours of cal's, charles', ilya's, etc. posts, it began to make sense. In early May, the above people had had enough with the current owner of ubb chh, someone who even preferred to call himself "Spaz" - that should tell you something about him, I'm sure. They split and formed ubbcodehackers. In their wake, spaz's friend "slick chicken" (we had all the strange people at that time ) joined as an admin. To this day no-one knows who slick chicken was or where he was from - I still think he worked for the web host we were with. Anyways, I offered to moderate some forums since by then I was on all the time and slick was desperate enough to say yes... By June it was apparent that slick knew even less than I did, spaz had started becoming scarce, and in the rotation of people slick was letting be admin, I jumped in the fray and joined up. And the rest is history... Digital Boy was asked to become a moderator around that time, because, frankly at the time, he was the only one who actually wrote any new modifications. Our web host began requiring us to display ugly banner ads for them, as a result of some shady deal between spaz and them. Spaz had disappeared, and slick chicken was running around, well, like his head was cut off. (I liked to call him "chicken little" - mainly cuz he liked to about once a week make a hurried announcement in the private forums that he "had 'suspicions' that we were about to be hacked, so everyone change their password pronto!". Spaz showed up often enough to add fuel to the fire. heheh June of that summer someone who always seemed to have an encouraging word, never complained, helped wherever she could was asked to join us as moderator. Deb has been instrumental in our success ever since. Late July, DB and I had enough of the crap (is that better Greg? I said crap ;)), slick was disappearing for weeks at a time, and the banners were getting uglier. DB was promoted to admin, and we plotted our escape. We wanted to bring more professionalism to the site, to the staff, everything. So, we bought the ubbdev name to remove the word "hacking" from our name, built the site, and moved in the dawn hours of Labor Day weekend 2000. Sept 12th , Deb joined us as an admin, mainly for the things she brought to our admin staff as a whole - class, professionalism, and hygiene. She had spent many hours assisting us with the build-up to launching the new site and has been instrumental in our developing other areas such as our nice graphics database that other forum sites keep taking graphics from, we know who you are... They can give you their background and correct some of my mistakes in memory recall up there, I have probably said more than you wanted to know anyways...
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#67614
03/01/2001 2:52 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
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1) I don't think Slick Chicken was Spaz's friend 2) The name 'Spaz' is from Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (just bought that recently...) 3) Just a note, Slick Chicken added 3 admins, me, Allen, and eon. eon resigned sometime, I resigned (mainly 'cuz I don't use UBB anymore...), Slick disappeared, only Allen was left.
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#67615
03/01/2001 2:56 PM
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Posts: 615
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Actually it was ubbhackers.com
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#67616
03/01/2001 4:04 PM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,356
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Nice story Allen wow! I'm here since may, but it feels like I'm here for years. There has been a alot of things in a small period. And Deb was Deb~ for a long time do you miss the tail Deb? I checked this now, it is still there; http://ubbcodehacking.com/ubbchh.swf a present from slick chicken ... aaahhh... once upon a time, there was the ubb freeware code hacking ...
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#67617
03/01/2001 4:05 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I knew I missed a few things...
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#67618
03/01/2001 4:24 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 966
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*wakes up* Sorry, thought it was a bedtime story.. cool beans though, I knew some of that but not all.. And Allen, didn't you miss out all the exciting parts like getting hacked, or the mass mail telling everyone to go to Ubbhackers and things like that.. Intrigue, that's what your story needs now
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#67619
03/01/2001 4:36 PM
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Alot of crap went on. (Thank you Allen!)
I resigned because of the crap going on in MY life and with the site. I then sent a message to Allen (this was when Slick Chicken was head admin, and allen the lacky) asking to be mod again, and thats where i came back.
I've been here since Feb 2000.
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#67620
03/01/2001 4:36 PM
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That is a different story completly.
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#67621
03/01/2001 5:01 PM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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oh how well I remember Spaz... How fondly I remember all the moderators conspiring against Spaz, and that wonderful irc chat... *shudder* ok, getting too nostalgic here
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#67622
03/01/2001 5:11 PM
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Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 717
scattermidget
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No way!! That's exactly what I was hoping for -- thank you thank you.
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#67623
03/01/2001 5:44 PM
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Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 2,668
Pooh-Bah
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Hmmmm.. I seem to remember seeing something INC too for some strange reason. Anyway, I bought my first license in '98 and another in '99. I've always been around... behind the scenes more than in the foreground. I do remember the site getting hacked a few times.... far too well, and trying to fix whatever I could or contact whomever I could at the time. Jeo... nope I don't miss the tail. Let the mice have it.
- Deb
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#67624
03/01/2001 6:02 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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Aahhh the site hacks, I remember them well...
One in July, some old backups saved us from starting completely back over.. and another Sept 5, about 6pm. I had sent my pc through a reboot defragmentation and it was down for 3-4 hours... I couldn't get back online except from another pc, so I couldn't stop the damage until it was too late... whoever it was (and I am sure I know who it was now), just pruned threads, sent the email to everyone, but didn't bother the member files... what an idiot. We loaded old backups and started again.
The last time was in December, I had been lax in server extensions set up and someone signed on again and deleted everything except the member files (they are on another hard disk on the server). We loaded backups again and moved on...
Yes, each time Deb used her dialup connection and restored lots of it before I even could get signed back on. We now have daily backups of everything, would take maybe 5 minutes to restore if we needed to. Server security is finally taking precedence now as well... With the new v6, our backup file is now ~170mb, vs. the ~490mb file before.
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#67625
03/01/2001 6:26 PM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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It's alright for those of you who actually have bandwidth, isn't it *frowns at isdn and wishes someone would take pity on the hell holl she lives in and perhaps install adsl* heh, does anyone remember Spaz's "Win a Moderator position" competitions? haha oh, that just reminded me of something. When ubbchh was falling apart badly people spoke to him, everything would have been sorted out except he refused to get rid of his stupid "UBB Master and Ruler Of The Universe"esque title. and 50 stars. lol, what a lamer. alright, think I'll lay off of the caffeine for one night and get some sleep
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#67626
03/01/2001 11:57 PM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 966
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You see, I knew there was more to the story I don't envy you guys running a site like this, I'm sure it's the target of a lot of knowledgable people, rather than the target of a lot of 12 year old morons like my site
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#67627
03/02/2001 12:17 AM
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Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 595
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12 year old morons can be as dangerous, imho... actually, a knowledgable 12 year old moron is the most dangerous one... [ March 01, 2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]
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#67628
03/02/2001 2:31 AM
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Posts: 305
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OMG! i remember the whole thing, this was back when i was still a newbie. and before that I was a member of ultrasupport.org. i used too spy for new hacks here and the ultrasupport hackers would steal u guy's code and rewrite some too make it their own.
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#67629
03/02/2001 2:33 AM
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Posts: 305
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i still can't belive how long it's been.
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#67630
03/02/2001 4:04 AM
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Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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Programmer
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'Spaz' liked to be known as 'UBBMaster'. Hardly a title he deserved. I first vistied ubbchh just after it opened in jan 2k. I became a mod at the same time as andy (atom911). And yes, i remember those IRC plotting sessions Just a thought
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#67631
03/02/2001 7:43 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 615
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Memories Old design by Allen
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#67632
03/02/2001 7:44 PM
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Posts: 615
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The old staff from way back when
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#67633
03/02/2001 7:57 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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That's a mixture of 2 designs... both ugly, and people were mad when we changed from them too... How do you find this stuff?
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#67634
03/02/2001 8:48 PM
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Posts: 4,625
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wow. I remember the ol' days...
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#67635
03/02/2001 9:56 PM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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wow, all the old mods *feeling nostalgic*
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#67636
03/02/2001 11:03 PM
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Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 652
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Wow, I have always wondered where ubbdev came from. I am glad you broke up with ubbcodehackers.com their site looked like "crap".
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#67637
03/02/2001 11:11 PM
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Posts: 4,625
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This site is UBB CHH, although new domain and admins.
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#67638
03/02/2001 11:17 PM
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Posts: 615
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Allen - I found it when I was looking through an old ICQ conversation and found a link to the chat page. There was a link from there to the team page.
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#67639
03/02/2001 11:25 PM
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Posts: 615
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#67640
03/03/2001 5:31 AM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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#67641
03/03/2001 8:29 AM
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Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 1,379
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that would be slick chicken Just a thought
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#67642
03/03/2001 8:59 AM
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Posts: 91
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*Ouch* I see what you mean.
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#67643
03/03/2001 10:54 AM
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#67644
03/03/2001 1:58 PM
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Posts: 615
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methinks Interserver was playing with the colors... the board worked awhile ago, but now Ultimate.cgi has no execute permissions, the threads are all gone, and the colors are all screwed up.
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#67645
03/04/2001 1:03 PM
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Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,349
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...so it's at an all-time peak functionality then?
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#67646
03/04/2001 7:12 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 |
Yes, I've never seen it run better over there...
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#67647
03/06/2001 3:49 PM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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best admin I've seen
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#67648
03/07/2001 7:18 AM
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Posts: 1,168
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"In life you either lead, follow or get out of the way."
- DB
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#67649
03/13/2001 7:44 PM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2
Junior Member
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Friends, UBB Hackers and visitors, lend me your ears. I come to talk about Spaz, not to praise him. The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones; So let it be with Spaz. The noble cal has told you Spaz was ambitious; If it were so, it was a grievous fault, And grievously has Spaz answer'd it. Here, under leave of Cal and the rest, For Cal is an honorable man; So are they all, all honorable, I come to talk about Spaz. He is my friend faithful and just to me: But cal said he was ambitious, And Cal is an honorable man. He have started ubbcodehacking.com from scratch, He even paid for everything that was on the site. Did this in Spaz seem ambitious. When the site needed help Spaz has helped it. Ambition should be made of sterner stuff; Yet Cal said Spaz was ambitious; And cal is an honorable man. You all did see at the beginning of the creation of the site he had chosen moderators for the site. Even when some of them were inexperienced or new to the community he let them in with open hands was this ambitious? Yet cal said he was a ambitious And, sure, he is an honorable man. I speak not to disprove what Cal spoke, But I am to speak of what I do know. You all did like him once, not without cause; What cause withholds you to be kind to Spaz now? O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts, And men have lost their reasons. Bear with me; I will remember Spaz as a honorable man, And I must pause till it come back to me. Please change your attitudes about him. That's all I have to say. He knows that he has done mistakes so please forgive him and move on.
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#67650
03/13/2001 7:48 PM
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Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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Spelling like that means only one thing... Hi Chris How have you been, and what are you up to now-a-days...
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#67651
03/13/2001 11:05 PM
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Junior Member
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This is not Chris nor is it Spaz. You don't have to assume that everybody that comes here is Spaz. I am a close friend of Spaz.
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#67652
03/13/2001 11:11 PM
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Posts: 615
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#67653
03/13/2001 11:13 PM
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Spelling looks fine to me (one word I always misspell, believe it or not, spelling :D)
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#67654
03/13/2001 11:32 PM
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Posts: 595
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nope. edit: argh the rating bug is still here. nice history btw, most interesting. [ March 13, 2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]
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#67655
03/13/2001 11:50 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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He came back and corrected the spelling... (notice the "edited by" at the bottom)... there were quite a few spelling mistakes before (I can spell, I just can't type.. ;)). We "moved on" a long time ago... Thanks CopyCat, lots of history here, for such a short time span...
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#67656
03/14/2001 1:49 PM
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Posts: 615
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Well, that's half of it
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#67657
03/17/2001 11:07 AM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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Moderator / Fish
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Manbury, you wern't involved so it's not fair for you to comment at all. especially if you're a close friend of Spaz's - you obviously only hear one side of the story. note: no arguments about this please, it's been argued and beat to death
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#67658
03/17/2001 11:29 AM
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Programmer
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It appears Manbury is our old friend vaprak. Just a thought
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#67659
03/17/2001 12:33 PM
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Posts: 825
Member / CodeFixer
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I find that when you want people to read something you should speak english it works a lot better. And don't repeat yourself a million times it's rather redundant.
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#67660
03/17/2001 6:06 PM
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Posts: 2,223
Veteran
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Man I never thought I would see the day someone would use Shakespeare here as a post.
I will never doubt you guys again.
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#67661
06/16/2001 2:38 PM
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Pretty kewl .. very interesting stuff
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#67662
06/16/2001 3:13 PM
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Posts: 1,356
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who wants to see the world time ?
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#67663
06/16/2001 4:40 PM
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Posts: 1,083
Kahuna
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The Team [ June 16, 2001 04:42 PM: Message edited by: Travis ]
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#67664
06/16/2001 8:25 PM
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#67665
06/16/2001 9:16 PM
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You'll notice I posted that already in this topic
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#67666
06/16/2001 9:36 PM
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Posts: 1,083
Kahuna
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i thought i saw someone back in March do that, but i wasnt sure, and i didnt have time to go back through and look. Sorry bout that
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#67667
06/18/2001 1:02 AM
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*looks at member number*
*sighs condescendingly* Yessir, I was here through it all... *sniff*
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#67668
06/18/2001 10:06 AM
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Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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Someone explain this to me. Chris Needham (aka UBBMaster) lives in Manassas, Virginia and Allen lives in Beaumont, Texas. Hardly Washington DC!? I am confused! Just a thought
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#67669
06/18/2001 3:22 PM
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I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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Manassas, Virginia is a short hop (~30 min) from Washington, DC, and probably explains the reasoning behind that. A lot of security agencies (CIA, NSA, etc) for the federal govt. have their main offices in and around Manassas.
I also think AOL is close by...;)
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#67670
06/19/2001 1:36 AM
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Posts: 1,379
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Maybe spaz was working for the government... ...or AOL! Just a thought
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#67671
06/19/2001 3:22 AM
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LOL.
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#67672
06/24/2001 9:15 AM
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hahaha, I remember all of this.
The best part was when ubbcodehackers was making their new awesome design and it turned out to look like a halloween fright fest with script kiddie graphics, lmao.
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#67673
06/24/2001 9:41 AM
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Yes, it looked like someone made orange juice and deformed everything else black on the main forums.
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