UBB.Dev
The UBB.Threads version 6.5 Changelog has been posted by Infopop!

Version 6.5 has some great feature enhancements including:
- A new upgrade utility to make upgrades even easier, verify all files have been uploaded and find/add/remove any new/changed language strings.
- A reworked new post tracking feature.
- Greater efficiency in database queries.
- Admin/Moderator name colors moved to the stylesheets
- Flood Control
- Quick Reply
- Removed some of the unused Edit/Reply buttons
- Stylesheet Preview
- Signature Preview
- Active Topics link showing topics which have been active in the last 24 hours
- Global Announcements
- Underline markup tag
- Search Engine friendly URLs
- Long URLs in posts will be truncated
- Added Admin control over the search feature
- Enhanced the badword filtering

And the best improvement:
- A totally rewritten Admin Control Panel with a much better layout and wonderful new features.

There are many more features and enhancements on the changelog. You can view the complete changelog here at UBBCentral.

Screenshots of the new Admin Control Panel have been posted here.
OMG! How very cool!
"Ain't it cool "
A live demo has been posted here
Hurray! No more QuickReply mod, as it is standard baby! Thank god for CSS Display being integrated also. And thanks Rick for using my suggestion to edit a group's permissions from one page. I haven't read this closely, but what other mods are being integrated?
Very nice and I really like the increased flexability for mod empowering.
Can't quite tell from the screen shots.. can mods add to specific groups? This would be nice for clubs to add there own members to the group.
this is current functionality. Moderators can add users into and out of groups that they themselves belong in. (They don't see groups they aren't members of).

I need to investigate further in 6.5, but I assume existing functionality remains.
Think this is more function than they have now. Just because they are a member of a group doesn't mean I want them with the power to add to that specific group, yet would still like them to add to other groups that I could choose. Really hope this is in the feature set in this next release.

Would be nice to set groups joining powers similiar to the forums. (Only admin can add, mods, users, guests, assigned member)
No -
You can control which moderators can edit uses (and thus play with groups). But the nature of groups - you'd never want anyone seeing groups that they aren't a member of - or else people can see secret groups.

So the only real improvement is that rather than a global setting to allow moderators the ability to edit, you can customize it for specific moderators.
thanks for clarifying. I didn't want others to see the secret group or be able to adjust it unless I had it set that way.
There is definatley room for improvement (or hacking) of this once it's all settled on.
I see we're still not going with the sub-forums idea still...

Other than that the new changes look great!
incredibly sweet!! probably the only thing i've yet to grow accustomed to is the threads CP -- and now, it'll be just like classic, but better!

fantastic! :-D
When's the expected beta release for members due out?
When it's ready.

It's in an early private beta now, and given the scope of rewrites there's a lot of bugs to squash.

It doesn't go to public beta until those are mostly gone.
ahhh its using proper urls now
The changelog has an awesome feature list. The screenshots of the admin panel look incredible.
Won't be long and I won't need to do so many mods for each update!



It would be nice to have better file attachment interfaces - such as being able to attach a file right on the compose page versus having to preview and then load. Also, being able to load more than one image would be nice.
whoa!! i just read the full list on infopop's site... i'm actually excited!

my full-fledged step into nerdom!
Just curious, are anyone of you guys testing (early private beta) this on a large site, say around 1 millon posts to test the speed of the search and the other new queries etc.? With 1 milion posts 6.4 is about as fast as a 72 Ford Pinto with bald tires, we need a new Corvette with a supercharger that will smoke'em in all gears.
Show me the speed baby, it's all about the speed, I want to get out of the School zone and back on the super highway.
[]coloradok5 said:
Just curious, are anyone of you guys testing (early private beta) this on a large site, say around 1 millon posts to test the speed of the search and the other new queries etc.? With 1 milion posts 6.4 is about as fast as a 72 Ford Pinto with bald tires, we need a new Corvette with a supercharger that will smoke'em in all gears.
Show me the speed baby, it's all about the speed, I want to get out of the School zone and back on the super highway. [/]
I agree 100%. Can someone test this. It's been painful for us as well with only 660,000 posts.
[]JoshPet said:
When it's ready.

It's in an early private beta now, and given the scope of rewrites there's a lot of bugs to squash.

It doesn't go to public beta until those are mostly gone. [/]

Any new word on when they think this might be released?
You quoted my exact answer.
Infopop doesn't do release dates, because it's not ready until it's ready. So once they post it, it'll be announce. But there will probably be a lengthy public beta first.... I don't see that anytime real soon.
Yeah expect it to be the timeframe of June to October at the minimum that should get some people off your back Josh LOL
Actually I am not as pumped up for 6.5 as I was for 6.4 So it gets here when it gets here.
Just had a look in my crystal ball - and I can confirm it is scheduled for release in 2004
how can you not be as pumped for 6.5?
He hasn't seen the admin area yet.

I have.

Get pumped.
yeah but thats for me.. not for the users.. 6.4 added a so-so calendar system and a whole new poll system for the users
Josh write a mod to reply "When it's done ™" to any posts or replies asking when the next version will be released. LOL
[]J.C. said:
Josh write a mod to reply "When it's done ™" to any posts or replies asking when the next version will be released. LOL [/]

Maybe we can get Allen to manually add the replies []http://www.vhfans.com/boards/images/graemlins/sssh.gif[/]
[]Omegatron said:
Yeah expect it to be the timeframe of June to October at the minimum that should get some people off your back Josh LOL [/]

Chuck,

I for one am not overly impressed at the fact that I paid Infopop a tremendous amount of money for two years of access to the Member area and 6.5 may not be released until October (ha-ha). I'm afraid that is not acceptable when there are two very popular open source alternatives out there, one of which is extremely feature-packed and like .threads has various user "mods" available to install.

I think Infopop needs to understand that those of us who have paid for Membership expect more frequent updates otherwise why bother to pay for UBB.threads? Seriously. In all honestly, had I known about the alternative before upgrading from .classic to .threads I most certainly would have considered it before forking over so much money.

All I'm suggesting is to please have more patience and understanding when people poke and Prod at you guys about "the next release". I have yet to do it but I too am anxious for 6.5 and 7.0, etc. When I read your anticipated time line for 6.5 I felt a little discouraged about supporting Infopop Corp. and for the $328.00 USD I recently forked over and I believe I speak for more people than just myself here.

IMHO,

Jason Dietrich
Administrator,
FlightAttendants.org

Infopop Customer
Jason - I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Their newsletter a few days ago indicated that 6.5 was "coming soon".

I don't know - I've never seen any other software with such frequent releases.

The "october" above was a joke. Nobody knows - Infopop does not give release dates ahead of time. The real answer is "when it's ready". Yet people don't read the thread then come along and ask for a date again.

Infopop releases new versions as often as some people change their socks. Although they never publicize specific release dates ahead of time.

The reason why nobody can give a date is that there is no "date" fixed. Infopop has a release schedule in mind I'm sure - but the real answer is "when it's ready". Partucularly when stuff is rewritten as much as it was in 6.5 - the beta period is longer.

We are up to a dev4 release and when there are no more bugs to be found, it'll move to a public beta, which most likely will uncover more bugs and several betas. My guess would be that a public beta will be around shorly.

But if you look back at the announcement forum at infopop - you'll see that there seems to be a new release every two or three months. And the current release has only been out a bit over a month.

So not sure how much more frequent updates you'd like??? ... a release every week? every other day? LOL

Every couple of months is defainly faster than most stuff gets released. I think VB version 3 has been in BETA for at least a couple of years. LOL

Nobody that knows anything about it said anything about October.
Hi Josh,

My post was based on the reply about a June - October release date and the don't ask mentality. I did not realise that the post I replied to was from someone who doesn't "know anything about it". Joke or not it was not appropriate to post IMO due to the fact that we all pay good money to Infopop and put faith in them to keep .threads quite a few steps ahead of the open source bb's available. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's how I feel. That reply did reflect on Infopop when I read it and had no effect at all on how I feel about this site and all it offers.

The first time I read that post it struck a nerve and I kept quiet until I re-read it today. It still bothered me so I posted a reply. I have personally spoken to Chuck via PM and e-mail in the past and I think he's a nice guy, particularly helpful too but that aside it was inappropriate regardless the number of times the question is asked IMO.

In any case I stand corrected and I'd like to thank you for pointing out the fact that had I read the annoucement forum at Infopop, I would realise that there is a new release every two or three months although I was referring to major releases with new features.

One of my new members who migrated from an open source aviation forum yesterday asked for some of the features they had over there. I went out on a limb and advised that member that Infopop is surely on top of what the free bb systems are offering and the features are in the works for later releases, although 6.5 looks to be primarily an administrator release (as mentioned above) and won't affect our members in any significantly noticable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that .threads is going to introduce what .classic has had for some time already.

In any case, you are right I've only been a .threads customer for 3 months or so. 6.4 was just released when I upgraded from .classic. Again I based my reply on what I read and assumed to be true.

Jason
[]Infopop releases new versions as often as some people change their socks. [/] Actually between Photopost and INopop that is what annoys me the most. I hate constantly having to upgrade my software
...unless they are major releases including new features, in which case I'm sure the inconvenience is worth while otherwise you wouldn't bother, right?
And I've got quite a handfull of licenses that I personally have paid for at full pice as well. So I'm right there with you. They release stuff plenty fast enough.

2004 saw 2 major releases - 6.3 and 6.4 and several minor releases of each of those.

Another thing to keep in mind - some of the open source 'free' stuff does have alot of features. But infopop does not add features willey-nilly without first making sure that performance is not comprimised.

This is a professional product, which has to perform well for millions of posts and tens of thousands of members. It does. It's probably never have "everything but the kitchen sink" as far as features goes. But it'll work, and work well.

Infopop could easily add every hack found here and have the most feature rich product on the planet. But it sure wouldn't perform very well. So always remember, you get what you pay for.

Nothing is added in threads without first making sure that performance and reliability is not comprimised.
Hi Josh, thanks for the info. Without doubt, UBB.threads is a stable and an enjoyable bb system to administer. Having said that and regarding stability, this is what one of the open source developers say about their software:

[](A few excerpts:)

The project has been stable since its creation in June 2000 without changes in licencing, leadership or corporate associations. Our goals remain unchanged and clear, to continue developing and supporting a stable, free, opensource forum system.

xxxxx is a high powered, fully scalable, and highly customisable open-source bulletin board package. xxxxx has a user-friendly interface, simple and straightforward administration panel, and helpful FAQ. Based on the powerful PHP server language and your choice of MySQL, MS-SQL, PostgreSQL or Access/ODBC database servers, xxxxx is the ideal free community solution for all web sites.

...version 2 focuses on a professional-quality modular design, high security, multiple-language interface, support for a multitude of databases servers and complete layout customisation, all with a low execution overhead.

xxxxx is based on PHP, the fastest growing server-side scripting language on the web, which results in one of the fastest, feature-rich bulletin board systems available anywhere.

-Active community creating addons and specialised modifications

-Default style compliant with XHTML 1.0 and HTML 4.01 recommendations from the W3C
[/]

I'll re-evaluate my need for UBB.threads in 2005 when my current paid Member area licence expires. Until then I am quite happy with what I am providing for my Members. Good job because Infopop products are 100% non-refundable after purchase. Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking Infopop, I'm just pointing out that there are open source projects out there claiming to be just as stable as .threads that seem to be able to offer their community stable, feature rich software with import utilities as well.

Of course there is a certain prestige associated with using a name-brand product... but once your site is popular and you've been using it a few years, does it really matter? It seems the smart thing to do would be to have a good look at all your options and pay particular attention to stability, Member features and integration with other products you've purchased.

It was kind of you to reply to my concerns, Josh. You should join Infopop as a sales rep!

Jason
I have used every forum software out there, free, or pay. I own licenses of vbulletin, threads, had classic before. You name it, I've used it. And as I've said before, nothing compares. Those free platforms that say "full scalable" are full of ****. They are so bloated with neat little features and bells and whistles that any large community (thousnads of members, and hundreds of thousands of posts) will simply not hold up to the task. Yes, they may still work, but you will be spending thousands of dollars on server upgrades just to make it run as fast as you want, which will cost you more than threads would have to begin with.

The other forums, from an admin standpoint are a nightmare to try and manage and customize. Some paid forums even, if you want a custom "skin" or new look for your site, be expected to shell out more money. Here with threads, you can get dozens of FREE stylesheets, or if you're friends with someone, they may even design you one for free or provide assistance.

And of course you have security issues... look at all the exploits available out there, but you're opening yourself up to being hacked, maybe even your whole server brought down. Yes, the free forums try to release the updates, but you'd think they would design their software more securely to begin with With threads, I think there was one little security flaw mentioned as far as I can remember in the past few years, and that was promptly fixed.

So IMO, it's a small price to pay for a professional product that is going to hold up to a very rapid and growing membership of a popular forum. I also know I'm becoming part of a very active community and can get hacks, mods, or help with almost anything I need. I've had people, for free, write custom code for me. I mean that is just awesome. But you really can't go wrong, since when it comes to software, a lot of times the old cliche "You get what you pay for" holds very true.
[]Sky YYZ said:
Hi Josh,

My post was based on the reply about a June - October release date and the don't ask mentality. I did not realise that the post I replied to was from someone who doesn't "know anything about it". Joke or not it was not appropriate to post IMO due to the fact that we all pay good money to Infopop and put faith in them to keep .threads quite a few steps ahead of the open source bb's available. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh but it's how I feel. That reply did reflect on Infopop when I read it and had no effect at all on how I feel about this site and all it offers.

The first time I read that post it struck a nerve and I kept quiet until I re-read it today. It still bothered me so I posted a reply. I have personally spoken to Chuck via PM and e-mail in the past and I think he's a nice guy, particularly helpful too but that aside it was inappropriate regardless the number of times the question is asked IMO.

In any case I stand corrected and I'd like to thank you for pointing out the fact that had I read the annoucement forum at Infopop, I would realise that there is a new release every two or three months although I was referring to major releases with new features.

One of my new members who migrated from an open source aviation forum yesterday asked for some of the features they had over there. I went out on a limb and advised that member that Infopop is surely on top of what the free bb systems are offering and the features are in the works for later releases, although 6.5 looks to be primarily an administrator release (as mentioned above) and won't affect our members in any significantly noticable way. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that .threads is going to introduce what .classic has had for some time already.

In any case, you are right I've only been a .threads customer for 3 months or so. 6.4 was just released when I upgraded from .classic. Again I based my reply on what I read and assumed to be true.

Jason [/]

One thing to keep in mind is that 99% of this community is users. If it doesn't come from Scream or Navaho, then it is just conjecture and speculation...or just for fun. If its got LOL in it, that's usually a good clue that its light harted.

Just my wooden nickel.
And Sky, I am not one to knock another forum, as I have also used all the big ones and most of the free ones from either a testing standpoint, integration standpoint, or just to see how well they ran my existing data.

The above blurb you noted is fron phpBB2 - and while it is a great free forum and one I would consider using if I was not a lifetime member around here...the code (in my humble non-coder opinion) is not nearly as clean or efficient as Threads.

While it stacks up feature-wise and mod-wise, try it out on a busy forum, you might be surprised at the results.
Hi guys,

Okay I better leave this alone since it has strayed from the original topic and turned into a debate I don't particularly wish to persue since I'm pleased with .threads overall and will be using it through 2005.

I will say though that I can provide plenty of examples of these so called poorly-written open source discussion handlers being used by big names with vibrant communities and a mind-numbing number of posts. Alas, some are even integrated with the likes of other popular scripts such as photopost, nuke, and several chat programs.

Like the open source community members, you guys are very helpful and friendly. Which discussion forum handler I am providing to my Members in 2005 will remain to be seen... I would certainly consider reaching back into my pocket book but it will all depend how far .threads has come. Be rest assured that if I'm thinking this, others are too. If you think otherwise, get your head out of the sand.

In the mean time... I chose threads, I like threads and Medar, I like this community too but unlike you I have not been a lifetime member around here... I will do what's best for my Members when it's time to make a decision... and that may just mean UBB.threads again too -- it all depends.

My original point was to please have more patience when people poke and Prod about release dates... they do so because they are enthusiastic about seeing UBB.threads advance with new features. I too look forward to seeing what the future holds, just like all of you.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. Long live UBB.threads!

Jason
viva la threads!
what is this ubbthreads you people speak of?
I hear it's a phpbb clone.


In anticipation I sit and wait.
Humbly waiting for the next threads update.

Many share this tireless fate.
Eagerly awaiting the final release date.

Checking in thirty-thrice a day
Anxiously hoping that it could be today.

Others asking just like me
when will six point five there be?

I know it will never be too late
So I try not to become irate.

When its done™ is good for some,
but timely reassurance is always welcomed.

If I haven't said it enough
your doing a hell of a job - Keep it up!


LOL
Posted By: shortbus Hey Josh! - 02/25/2004 5:17 AM
did you get my pm?
Posted By: smilesforu Re: Hey Josh! - 03/01/2004 2:56 AM
Will this new model have the ablity to show different navigation headers for different groups?
The admin CP looks awesome, and it's great to see that some of the ideas floating around have been implemented in it. Stuff like the ability to customize each moderator's priviledges is great IMO. Can't wait to see this one released...
Hey, I saw that PhotoPost crack! :lol:

When we asked our users if they wanted "more features with longer development cycles" or "moderate upgrades in a more timely manner", the vast majority sided with the impatient ones and prefered moderate upgrades. We simply strive to provide what our users want.

When people upgrade is entirely up to them. Heck, I'm still running GMS on one of my sites!
Want all things possible, NOW!!!!!

hehehehe
Not sure if this has been added yet???

If memory serves me correct, I remember something being mentioned about making threads more search engine friendly? Was this implemented in 6.4 or is it slated for the 6.5 release? Sure would be nice if the search engines could spider threads and make good use of all the information in the posts if this has not already been done

Looking forward to the 6.5 release just the same!

Chuck
flumpydog, This is currently available as a mod for 6.4 and will be built in to 6.5
How about integrating a videochat link interface in a new version. For example a list of forum users who are currently online with AIM/iChat would show up as a list under the forum. By clicking them, the AIM or iChat interface would open.
Well 6.5 has been feature frozen for quite a while - but be sure to post suggestions in the feature suggestion at the www.ubbcentral.com site so that infopop sees them and logs them so they can be considered for future versions.
thanks for the reply, will keep an eye out for it in 6.5 for sure and might even jump the gun and try the mod
Going on 3 months now. I'm not being impatient or anything, but has a private beta EVER lasted this long?? And I'd still like to throw my hat into the ring for consideration of being a beta tester. Whenever a public beta comes out, I install a copy and my mods and I test it out until the gold is released.

*insert many winks here*
[]but has a private beta EVER lasted this long?? [/]

ever try waiting for a game thats been in Beta for eons? I was in UO, EQ, SWG, and now COH and I tell ya.. they sometimes are in BETA forever!
I know I waited for SimCity4 for an eternity!! I'm currently waiting for Operation Flashpoint 2.

But yeah, screenshots of 6.5 rock!
Okay, I got the Infopop headquarters layout extrapulation from a Russian spy satelite. I'm going in to get a copy of 6.5...Who's with me?
w00t!
We can hold Navaho for Ransom.. maybe Scream will trade 6.5 for him.. maybe he won;t
LOL

Yeah, it takes time. If I recall, I think 6.2 took forever. It just depends on how much is changed - rewritten. Soooooo much was totally rewritten in 6.5. I mean, new post tracking was rewritten from the ground up. That's pretty major on it's own. Lots of testing and tweaking to be done there. Then rewrite the entire admin area. Major major. Then create an upgrade utility and totally change the way it's installed/upgraded and functions. Lots of stuff to test out.

So I think the time period is normal. In fact, things have moved along faster than I personally expected. When I saw the changes being done, I thought we'd be lucky to see it public by next year.
I came upon a new list of bugs/improvements today in the upgrade proceedure. I don't want to send it out while the small group is still finding them.

The control panel is not simply reskinned, it is rethought, and recoded from the ground up. The registration process, new content islands, a new upgrade system ... there is a lot here to go over.
[]Soooooo much was totally rewritten in 6.5. I mean, new post tracking was rewritten from the ground up. That's pretty major on it's own. Lots of testing and tweaking to be done there. Then rewrite the entire admin area. Major major. Then create an upgrade utility and totally change the way it's installed/upgraded and functions. Lots of stuff to test out.
[/]

yeah, and the double secret subforums surprise is a whole project on it's own. That's really the main reason for the delay.

That, and that tiny little five minute mod they are adding in especially for me where you can select user profile fields that are required upon registration but are only displayed for admins to see;).
They said 6.5 won't have "sub" anything - as none of the other infopop products have subforums - they want them to be consistant.

You can require profile fields on signup.... and there is an Admin Notes field in the user's profile. If you wanted signup info collected and stored in the notes filed, that would be a very easy mod.
[]JoshPet said:
They said 6.5 won't have "sub" anything - [/]


what about [sub]scriptions
Come on Josh, they are even keeping you out of the loop on this one. I have seen the master plan and SUB FORUMS ARE REAL DAMNIT, They're real...
Just use categories, nobody will know the difference
[]coloradok5 said:
Just curious, are anyone of you guys testing (early private beta) this on a large site, say around 1 millon posts to test the speed of the search and the other new queries etc.? With 1 milion posts 6.4 is about as fast as a 72 Ford Pinto with bald tires, we need a new Corvette with a supercharger that will smoke'em in all gears.
Show me the speed baby, it's all about the speed, I want to get out of the School zone and back on the super highway. [/]

Justouta interest... how do you KNOW its the software and not the server? I presume an earlier version was much quicker? All right we don't have a million posts (~200K) but we have around about 100 users at a time, all searching (well when it used to work in 6.3 ) posting etc and the little beast flies! You tired PHP accelerator or a faster server? Going from a cobalt raq4 to a P4 2.4 ghz made the biggest difference for us. [shameless plug] check out www.tyresmoke.net to see what i mean [/shameless plug]
From the 6.5 changelog...
"Reworked the sticky posts a bit more to be more efficient. With this change, sticky posts will appear at the top of every page instead of just the first page in a forum."

I hope there will be an option NOT to show sticky's on all pages.
JoshPet,

Do you aggree that this:

[]
#108490 - [:"red"]02/22[/]/04 03:27 PM Edit Reply Quote Quick Reply

Jason - I'm not sure you know what you're talking about. Their newsletter a few days ago indicated that 6.5 was "coming soon".
[/]

Has been anything but "coming soon"?

Ron
In software terms, a few months is definately still coming soon, especially considering there are quite a few sites running 6.5 betas.
Windows 2010 coming soon...
sub forums is no small addition people! It takes time. And considering there doesn't seem to be any beta's with subforums, it may be a few more months.
sub-forums are not part of 6.5 - unless I have missed soemthing obvious
[] Subject Poster Views Replies Rating Last post [/]

yes, you must have missed it.
[]
yes, you must have missed it.
[/]

Well, I have looked at the recent changelog, the admin panel pictures and the few test-beta-devXX forums around, but I can't find ANY clue there will be a sub-forum option in the 6.5 release

B.t.w. I am not complaining. The list of features in 6.5 looks spectacular. I just don't like it much if someone sends e-mail announcing a release soon, and keeps you waiting another few months. Then better not announce it at all

Ron
[]shortbus said:
[] Subject Poster Views Replies Rating Last post [/]

yes, you must have missed it. [/]

Unless something new has come up, there will be no subforums in 6.5.
You guys just aren't looking right.

The print is the same color as the background text so you must left click and then highlight a certain area of the page for it to show up...

Now that I've let the cat out of the bag, they will probably remove it completely....
shortbus

Let me set the record straight so I get no more emails about it. There are no subforums in 6.5, nor are there likely to be in an version soon to come.
Don't be misled people, subforums are coming!!!!

(okay, sorry if my fun is causing your inbox to overflow. I was just bored. I would think people already realize it isn't happening, otherwise I wouldn't post about it, but I guess I was wrong....just like you are all wrong and subforums is coming! <-- see there I go again!
Give it a break Shortbus - it is hard enough when you have users saying 'Why can't we have VB3, as it looks good & has sub-forums', without you further winding people up.

Sad to see that there are now no plans for sub-forums in any version soon to come.

Guys/Gals relax it will come when it comes. I wanna see you two shake hands and make squirrel sounds of forgiveness for the blasphemy called life as you darest to strike imortal words of splendor and squander on the masses.
yeah I don't know what you just said, but I'm not mad about it. Heck, I was just having some fun...
If there is enough "want" for it. it might just get added sooner or later....
ok I will add to the I want it group...
[]There are no subforums in 6.5, nor are there likely to be in an version soon to come[/]


[]ok I will add to the I want it group...[/]
me too! I WANT IT.
me too:-)
That would be AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The beta 1 is online on some sites already, but no subforums like navaho told us.

Ron
Navaho never told anybody there was going to be subforums in this version or any version soon

He has said quite the opposite
Bring 'em on for version 7.0
That's what I meant to say. Maybe I just have added "just".

The beta 1 is online on some sites already, but no subforums. Justlike navaho told us.

Ron
SHHHHHHHHH!
[]shortbus said:
yeah I don't know what you just said, but I'm not mad about it. Heck, I was just having some fun... [/]

I thought it was obvious to all that you were just having some fun while "recasting your vote". Besides, I don't see anthing indicating you're an employee of Infopop or any other indication that I should take those sort of pronouncements seriously.

Lighten up people.

Lee

PS. I was talkimg to Rick this morning and he let slip that sub-forums were going to be IN 6.5 as an easter egg! Cool huh?
Are there easter eggs in current version??!!!
yes its called the addpost.php.. it actually works
And here I always thought addpost.php was a Feature.
Anyone else had the opportunity to test out the built in coffee maker? It doesn't have that raw sewage taste like Tweak's coffee does.
any of you guys get the announcement today from the threads newsletter where it talked about subforums in 6.5?
I should add I guess, that the newsletter update I got didn't mention them
Do you need to be a beta tester in order to subcribe to the .threads newsletter? I'd be interested in reading it.
The .threads newsletter goes to everyone who has a license. (every customer)

If your email is wrong or your preferences got turned off.

You can subscribe here;

http://www.ubbcentral.com/newsletters.php
Thanks, Josh. I must have opted out or something before.
We no longer automatically add people when they purchase, they must subscribe in order to get the newsletter. Fewer complaints about spam that way. Works better for our customers and for us.
I have seen this version "UBB.threads™ 6.5b1".
Anyone got any idea when a beta is going to be released to the member area?

Ron
When its finished.
Right now it's just waiting on the docs to be finished. Things have changed in the control panel area drastically, so these need to be finished before we can put out the beta release so users can have something to reference while getting used to it.
Just noticed scream is a neighbor kinda.. Hmmm wonder if I took him fishing I could get on the beta tester list...hmm
how do you get on the beta tester list?
money $$$$
Posted By: navaho Send me money! - 05/20/2004 12:33 AM
Yes! Send me money! None of the other beta testers did, but you can send money to the "nav wants a new laptop" fund and I'll give you first consideration for a new beta tester slot.
Posted By: scroungr Re: Send me money! - 05/20/2004 12:52 AM
heh ok I got this shiny penny today from 7-11 after buying a Slurpee it's all yours
Posted By: Zackary Re: Send me money! - 05/20/2004 1:16 AM
[]navaho said:
Yes! Send me money! None of the other beta testers did, but you can send money to the "nav wants a new laptop" fund and I'll give you first consideration for a new beta tester slot. [/]

ROFL!
Posted By: DrChaos Re: Send me money! - 05/20/2004 2:39 PM
humph!

[]navaho said:
We no longer automatically add people when they purchase, they must subscribe in order to get the newsletter. Fewer complaints about spam that way. Works better for our customers and for us. [/]

Makes sense and is appreciated. I wonder if I missed it, or if in the welcome/thank you for purchasing UBB.x message there is a chance to opt in? Just a suggestion if not.

All signed up, thanks.

Jason
Hi Jason,

No, I don't think it is in the welcome email now that you mention it. It soon shall be.
Doah - I coulda sold my Beta Tester spot on ebay!
Jason, the welcome email has been updated with the newletter information. Good catch. Thanks.


Josh, you changed the thread title on the front page by quoting 113546 instead of 113554
I understand the reasons behind it, with documentation and all, but from the email last week I was under the impression it would be out this week. We are waiting until 6.5 to get several bug fixes and mods installed on our forums that will take professional help. It's all on hold now. Not bitching or rushing, just have others involved in my project asking when we are going to do it.

Thanks
Um...........6.5 will be released on.......

Hey, I've been to Dothan, AL!

Damn Adult ADD.....
[]Tigervoice said:
I understand the reasons behind it, with documentation and all, but from the email last week I was under the impression it would be out this week. We are waiting until 6.5 to get several bug fixes and mods installed on our forums that will take professional help. It's all on hold now. Not bitching or rushing, just have others involved in my project asking when we are going to do it.

Thanks [/]

Last time I asked when, I almost got flammed. I hope you have better luck.
I was able to hack into the Infopop servers and get this official release date timeline.
I've been to dothan AL as well.

We're working up the release announcement, documentation page for UBB.central, version notes, documentation review, etc. If we get it all done today 6.5 will be out today, if not then Monday I guess. I'm hoping for today.
I am hoping for Monday
LMAO @ DLWebmaestro & slayer60......

If the write up dont get done today then why would it wait untill monday. what happend to sat and sun?

to everyone:
dont flame me for asking. Im still the ultimate noob here.
and I dont know if they are "open" on weekends.
[]navaho said:
If we get it all done today 6.5 will be out today, if not then Monday I guess. I'm hoping for today. [/]

Party!!


Is it sad that I am very excited by this release?!
Not really, it's a very anticipated upgrade
Please today.... give's me an excuse not to go to the gym
we are talking about public beta right?
as every movie depicting Alabama would lead you to believe we all talk like.

We are most widely known for the following things:
1. The Peanut Capital of the World
2. The Condom Capital of the World. (Had four plants at one time, pre NAFTA)
3. That place that everyone stops to eat and get gas on the way to Panama City.
The ubb.threads to vB3 importer is now available. Hurry hup
hmmm. all I get is a poll results page and some discussion about it. no dl there?
No, the Importer is for registered members only and can't be dl.
Currently the only official importer is for UBBThreads 5.4 (formerly wwwthreads).
[]ericgtr said:
Currently the only official importer is for UBBThreads 5.4 (formerly wwwthreads). [/]

Jelsoft told me that the new importer works with 6.4
Who would want to move to VB3?! That's like giving up Windows XP for Windows 3.1
well, i'm sitting here patiently for the release.
ho-hum
[]monkeyra said:
well, i'm sitting here patiently for the release.
ho-hum
[/]

Same for me !
[]Dalantech said:
Who would want to move to VB3?! That's like giving up Windows XP for Windows 3.1 [/]

Half my members They like the new glossy look - and the sub-forums.

I try and stick up for threads - but as one bright spark pointed out to me - if Infopop do not even promote it as a main product on their home page, then why should we use it - I think he thinks that it is going to be phased out - so we ought to jump ship now

Still hopefully the beta will be out today
what site you run Ian?
http://www.nonleague.com
cool!
Looks like quite a modified sidebar hack you got there!
who you hosting it with just outta interest? intrested to know if you went with a uk company or elsewhere?
Yep - the sidebar changes depending upon the team you select when you join - or alter via 'My Home' - also the top will also change depending upon your team (limited number). So fans of Hornchurch will see a different site to those of Canvey Island.

A company called firsthosting - http://www.firsthosting.co.uk - ought to mention that I own the company
lol, I suppose that does help!
[]Ian_W said:
[]Dalantech said:
Who would want to move to VB3?! That's like giving up Windows XP for Windows 3.1 [/]

Half my members They like the new glossy look - and the sub-forums.

I try and stick up for threads - but as one bright spark pointed out to me - if Infopop do not even promote it as a main product on their home page, then why should we use it - I think he thinks that it is going to be phased out - so we ought to jump ship now

Still hopefully the beta will be out today [/]

thats the reason I do not like VB3.. I hate Glossiness..
[]Ian_W said:
if Infopop do not even promote it as a main product on their home page, then why should we use it - I think he thinks that it is going to be phased out - so we ought to jump ship now

Still hopefully the beta will be out today [/]

I've had lots of people say infopop doesn't have Threads on their main page, but they split everything out to use it's own products for support at customer request.

At www.infopop.com - in the center, about halfway down:

[]
Downloadable Message Boards at UBBCentral
Check out the new home for the downloadables, UBBClassic and UBBthreads, at UBBCentral.com. There you'll find everything about the UBB boards.[/]

Click the link, and it'll take you to the right site for threads - www.ubbcentral.com

Josh, that's true but "Downloadable Message Boards at UBBCentral" seems to me "Don't bother us anymore with .Threads, now we have a new better product here, but if you still whant it look att UBBCentral...".
yeah they are hawking their EVE product line. I don;t see anything wrong with showcasing your future line but threads is still probably their bread and butter.
[]scroungr said:
[]Ian_W said:
[]Dalantech said:
Who would want to move to VB3?! That's like giving up Windows XP for Windows 3.1 [/]

Half my members They like the new glossy look - and the sub-forums.

I try and stick up for threads - but as one bright spark pointed out to me - if Infopop do not even promote it as a main product on their home page, then why should we use it - I think he thinks that it is going to be phased out - so we ought to jump ship now

Still hopefully the beta will be out today [/]

thats the reason I do not like VB3.. I hate Glossiness.. [/]

Yeah but when you click Log Out the screen fades to gray.. that otta be worth something
[]JoshPet said:
[]Ian_W said:
if Infopop do not even promote it as a main product on their home page, then why should we use it - I think he thinks that it is going to be phased out - so we ought to jump ship now

Still hopefully the beta will be out today [/]

I've had lots of people say infopop doesn't have Threads on their main page, but they split everything out to use it's own products for support at customer request.

At www.infopop.com - in the center, about halfway down:

[]
Downloadable Message Boards at UBBCentral
Check out the new home for the downloadables, UBBClassic and UBBthreads, at UBBCentral.com. There you'll find everything about the UBB boards.[/]

Click the link, and it'll take you to the right site for threads - www.ubbcentral.com

[/]

I realise it is there - this user was just pointing out that they no longer activly promote it from their home page - so in HIS eyes that means that IP are winding it down - and that we should not be investing time in a dying product.

I disagree (plus I still have 2 years left on my licence) - so have no plans to switch to VB3

I just want 6.5, so that I can hack it to bits
Posted By: oceanwest It's Monday!!! - 05/24/2004 7:05 PM
Posted By: navaho Re: It's Monday!!! - 05/24/2004 7:27 PM
Ok, it's time to get a grip on reality here, then I'm going to close this thread.

You folks ask for the downloadable boards, product and support, to be split off of the Infopop customer support. Our customers. You asked, that's why we did it.

Though .threads is our lowest performing product in terms of unit volume or sales we belive in it strongly, and in Rick. Some product has to be the lower one if you only have 3 or 4 products Threads isn't going away any time soon, and neither is .classic. So, we listened to what was asked of us and we gave them thier own website.

And now some of the exact same names and faces that were beating us for having one board and one support site are doing the same because we split them. Discouraging.

And since we've long since strayed form the original intent of this thread I'll close it
I just saw at ubbcentral Beta 1 is ready and in the download area.

We'll have an official announcement here later - but wanted to give everyone so anxious a heads up.
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