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Posted By: Eileen First question - 10/18/2000 11:57 PM
Ok, so what's the best book to get started with this stuff?

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Posted By: Rick Re: First question - 10/19/2000 12:17 AM
I ordered 2 of them, and they are both great. PHP 4 Bible (ISBN 0-7645-4716-X) and PHP Essentials (ISBN 0-7615-2729-X)
Posted By: Flyin V Re: First question - 10/19/2000 12:33 AM
Professional PHP Programming by WROX is very good.
Written by some of the guys who hang out at http://www.phpbuilder.com

The version of the book I have does not go into PHP4 much since it was written before the release, but 99% of the information is the same between the 2. I am not sure if they have released an updated version of the book yet.



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Posted By: Shalazar Re: First question - 10/19/2000 1:19 AM
For beginners? Definitely Teach Yourself PHP4 in 24 Hours by SAMS publishing. I've found it indispensible in getting the ground basics f the language and syntax.

Beware tho, it has a couple errors, beng a new book and all.

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Posted By: Eileen Re: First question - 10/19/2000 3:46 AM
Thanks everybody.
I may not be seen or heard from for some considerable time...
(I can hear the cheers already! []/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif[/])

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Posted By: powerlord I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 6:19 PM
I learned PHP without a book... by using the annotated manual online and a few example scripts.

Then again, I'm []/w3timages/icons/crazy.gif[/] crazy.

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Posted By: Eileen Re: I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 9:04 PM
Sounds good to me. Have you got a link to this manual somewhere on the web?

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Posted By: The Team Re: I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 9:06 PM
http://www.php.net

Posted By: Eileen Re: I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 9:16 PM
Ulp, that easy huh!
(You can tell how far behind the loop I am...)

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Posted By: PeelBoy Re: I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 9:32 PM
hehe.. you have to start some where right?

Do you already have PHP installed on your server?



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Posted By: Eileen Re: I must be crazy - 10/19/2000 9:38 PM
You bet php is on the server! I rely very heavily on phpMyAdmin (doesn't everybody? []/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/])

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Posted By: The Team Re: First question - 10/21/2000 5:00 PM
You know Perl. Do you know C? If so then you pretty much know 90% of the language. www.zend.com/manual is the most up to date online manual on features. If you want just read the basics. Most books you buy out there are based on this site or are virtually exact copies.

Posted By: The Team Re: I must be crazy - 10/21/2000 5:03 PM
Same here. At first I asked a couple of questions on IRC in #php, now I'm the one answering virtually any question. I have PHP running on several machines and I have been working with PHP since Beta 2.0

Posted By: The Team Re: I must be crazy - 10/21/2000 5:04 PM
I don't like that manual. They don't update it often enough for me. www.zend.com/manual is update as to what's in the CVS repository. Zend is the company that makes PHP.

Posted By: The Team Re: I must be crazy - 10/21/2000 5:07 PM
phpMyAdmin is like God to me. []/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/] phpwizard.net (the guys that made phpMyAdmin) guys wrote a pretty good book together. I talk with them on IRC a lot.

Posted By: Shalazar Re: I must be crazy - 10/21/2000 5:55 PM
I'm not a big fan of the PHP manual myself. I am a learner by example, and they just put the most cursory examples and explinations in there.However, the benefit of the online manual is the user comments board. I've found that helpful on more than one occasion.

And in IRC, the PHP channel on #EFNET has been invaluable to me.

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Posted By: Eileen Re: First question - 10/21/2000 8:48 PM
Since I'm a 'copy and paste' guy and like you, want lots and lots of working examples, I'll think I'll go with the one you like best. []/w3timages/icons/smile.gif[/]

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Posted By: The Team Re: First question - 10/21/2000 10:22 PM
guy?

Posted By: Eileen Re: First question - 10/21/2000 10:41 PM
Don't worry - I'm not a pervie chatroom lurker. I was just using the tem colloquially - my husband and four kids will vouch for me... []/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif[/]

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Posted By: The Team Re: First question - 10/22/2000 4:17 AM
I was just kidding you.

Posted By: Eileen Re: First question - 10/22/2000 8:58 AM
Yes, but what are you wearing? []/w3timages/icons/wink.gif[/]

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