here is my question.

the borders in UBB are small
but when i make a table on my web site and i put 1 for border thickness it is thicket then the ones on ubb.

how did ubb get the border soo skinny?

It's a table in a table with padding=1. I'll explain more later, but I've got to run now...

ok thanks you please explain more... i am still confused a bit

http://matt.h-realms.com/sample/tableriffic.html

thanks a million!