in case you guys were wondering what a valid html 4.01 document looks like, take a gander at the source of this: http://matt.h-realms.com/source/template.html . please use this as your templates when making documents, it'll save us all a lot of trouble. this document is also all commented up by me, so you'll know exactly what you're doing.

And what is the reason for it having to be perfectly valid?

erm, because you get to place a nice button on your site saying so

also, it means that the site is almost 100% guaranteed to display right in all browsers.

the second reason he stated is more correct.

You all should look into PHPNuke like Cal uses. All their pages are 4.1 $ CSS Sat.

Chek it out

Just a thought.

KE1HA

Stop advertising PHPNuke! Your post has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. And I'm pretty sure that cal wrote his own code, but don't hold me to it.

I do not use PHPNuke.

Just a thought