Title: Who's Online
Version: 4.1 (PHP 0.2) Public Beta

Authors: qasic, Borg, David Downin, Charles Capps

1) WOL lists everyone, regardless if they're browsing forum or the summary.
2) Invisible users will not be listed on PHP generated pages.
3) ultimatebb.php works when register_globals have been turned off as long as track_vars is on.
4) No record book.

In particular, this hack CANNOT co-exist with the CGI-only Who's Online.

Download URL: http://www.qasic.net/

qasic

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: qasic ]

Thank you! I am glad yo got it released!

So this means you can only run your board in PHP mode?

also the autoinstall does not work it can not find many things in ultimatebb.php

I will attempt to manually hack and see how it goes

[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: omegatron ]

Holy whos online batman, i can finnlay upgrade to 6.1!

Hack 0,4,12,13 in ultimatebb.php are not found all other files dry run okay.

*begs for a manual hack page*

I thought you weren't a big fan of autoinstall, qasic!

so if i dont activate php accelerator, this will not work?

yeah, looks like it from the jist of it.

If you don't have PHP accelerator enabled, this hack will still work but only provide the functionality that the PHP version provides; to have all the perl-based ability, use the perl-only version

q

[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: qasic ]

Good to see it finally released. Will test soon.

This is great news!

A record book though would be nice. Is it planned?

Also how about a per forum link that could list the users that have visited say in the last 15 minutes? This would be a tremendous plus!

The feature set is locked in because working on these features would involve adding significant processing time to the script and this defeats the purpose of the PHP accelerator.

qasic

Updated ZIP file with text-hack instructions (still rough). Did a few fixes with ultimatebb.php as well.

qasic

Thanks text directions work but the autoinstall still does not find the ultimatebb.php hacks 0,4,12,13

Speaking of the autoinstaller, anyone know how to use that thing?!

That's why there is a text file; creepingdeath, I'm still waiting on your response from my latest ICQ message.

qasic

Yep Qasic,

Text file works great. Nice features in cgi and PHP mode I dont see much difference. I was thinking like alot of changes. I can understand alpha quality. In some forums when I am in there on my test board I am there and dont show. If I go out and back in it will show. Seems like it needs a few moments to catch up with itself

Ok, there are many Bugs in ubb_whos_online.cgi...

1. When the IP of a User changes in a few minutes, the user is shown twice in whos online

2. When whos online is shown in ultimatebb.php, it doesn't look like "TheAngel, qasic, 2 Guests", it's look like "Theangel, qasic, 2"

3. On the site of whos online, sometimes it doesn't show the name of the thread and the forum where a user is, it shows only the link to the thread

4. The link to a thread is not correct... it is "http://free2talk.de/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=000002" but it should be "http://free2talk.de/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=000002"

Sorry for my english

Thats why its alpha.

I just wanted to show this. On my beta board, i noticed that it was showing this

And i was the only one on...

Yes, it's ALPHA, that's the reason why I don't say "hey, that's the biggest **** arround..."

I tell the bugs that I've found, so it can be fixed...

I installed it without a hitch at www.ravensnest2.com , Thanks.

Qasic, you may want to take a look at it in use. It doesn't track everyone and only shows me on some pages. Also spaces in user names show up as '%20'

Not complaining, I'm glad it's back. Keep up the good work refining this hack.

Yes, i know it's alpha, and that's why i'm trying to give feedback so these bugs can be squished.

Yes, a good start... it does need filtering for spaces and few other characters in user names.

Please bugs here so we know which ones to work on

I have some suggestions on how to fix some bugs

1) If a username has a space in it (e.g. "mini chip"), it is displayed as "mini%20chip" on the ultimatebb.php page.

Suggestion to solve it
search in ultimatbb.php
-------------------------------
function callWOL ($whatimdoing) {

global $list_people, $vars_wordlets_mods;
return (count($list_people)) ? join (', ', $list_people)
: $vars_wordlets_mods{'wol_empty'};

} // end function
-------------------------------
replace it with
-------------------------------
function wol_alter_username( &$item1, $key ) {
$item1 = str_replace('%20', ' ', $item1);
}

function callWOL ($whatimdoing) {

global $list_people, $vars_wordlets_mods;
array_walk( $list_people, 'wol_alter_username' );
return (count($list_people)) ? join (', ', $list_people)
: $vars_wordlets_mods{'wol_empty'};

} // end function
-------------------------------


2) A lot of links calculated by wol are wrong. Often a ; is used to seperate variables instead of a & (e.g. ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=42;t=000025)

3) Another link error the (the quotation mark):

reading: "thread


cu Holger

[ 11-01-2001: Message edited by: Minichip ]

another fix

theangel, error 4:

ubb_whos_online.cgi / line 372 => $wol_locale = qq($vars_wordlets_mods{'whos_online_browsing'} $ULTIMATEBB?$wol_locale ;

When we think release a Whoi's Online PHP Edition FINAL ?

It will probably be a while before we can get the bugs worked out, tho thanks to minichip it looks like there are several less to work on. Danke minichip

Outta town right now, will add these to the site here when I get back in unless another admin beats me to it

I fixed a few other things in my files, but it was too late yesterday to remember everything

Allen, do you want my files to check if there is something usefull in it?

Btw. your german is good

I forgot, the modified files are currently running at www.PaintballForum.de . The board is in german though it shouldn't be a problem to find wol

[ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: Minichip ]

Heya Minichip....how did u fix the link problems in the Who's online display page?

eg where it has ; instead of & etc...

To many places to list them all here

If you are familiar with HTML just read all wol files and when you find a link, check if the variables a seperated by a & (replace the ; )

[ 11-02-2001: Message edited by: Minichip ]

hmmm.. if that is the problem, we need to look at how to get it to work with ;. & doesn't validate, tho it's easier Thanks for the fixes minichip, it's getting there

To get it work with PHP, you have to edit the php.ini - File. But most people don't have access to that file...

& is validated and it probably works.

yeah thanks for this MOD i always love the whos online hacks

bugs that i can tell are it does not show up all the actuall users online in the main page, what it does is tell whos online "where they are" which is cool 2 just wanted to help a bit probably was no use what so ever but i used microchips fix's and it seems fine

thanks again cant wait for this hack to be finished but i will attempt any hack lol alpha beta you name it i try it

Kewl, another PB player

Hey Guy,

Thanks for all your input. Unfortunately, I won't have time to incorporate all the fixes to the bugs you mentioned this weekend but I'll try to get a new alpha out by the end of next week (no promises though).

Yes, this is the designed behaviour for the PHP version. It shows ALL user browsing the boards - regardless if they're ina particular forum or serachng, etc.

qasic

as you said and stated that this is alpha and we are very gr8ful to you for letting us test this (cheers)

lol the only reason i posted that about the main page is i had a member call my site a ghost town because it never showed on the main page how many people was browseing the actaul site but i have 40 forums lmao so the members are all over the place...

so i upped the time limit that they were logged in but because the wol tracks them very well it dont seem to work ???

not to worry i put the member straight lol

This looks to be the same as what's already in there. Mebbe qasic added it to the download file.

Is invisible working or did I code something wrong?

Hello. I've installed the PHP Who's Online yesterday, everything seems swell after I put the other mod to turn %20's into spaces. Although my main concern now is the fact that the timer to tell when users are erased from the 'Who's online' database is never 10, 20 or 45 minutes like I tried setting it, but it seems users are erased after a few seconds. For instance, I check the who's online page, when before I saw "Snake Grunger, roundeye, canistr, and 2 guests.", but now I only see myself, which means they've been quickly erased.

It doesn't work correctly on pages with php extensions, very hit and miss.

diettalk, double-check that you've edited the login template.

Yes, I have Allen. I even reinstalled the hack in a fresh version and it still doesn't seem to be invisible.

I meant this is the place to correct.
A possible solution would be this

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if ($wol_locale =~ /ubb=get_topic/) {
my $start = index($wol_locale,"&f=")+3;
my $stop = index($wol_locale,"&t=");
my $f = substr($wol_locale,$start,$stop-$start);
my $t = substr($wol_locale,$stop+3);

my @this_forum = &GetForumRecord($f);
my @whos_online_this_topic = &OpenTopic($t, $f);
my @whos_online_stats = split(/||/, $whos_online_this_topic[0]);
my $who_online_subject = $whos_online_stats[4];

$wol_locale = qq($vars_wordlets_mods{'whos_online_reading'} "$who_online_subject" $vars_wordlets_mods{whos_online_in} "$this_forum[1]");
} elsif ($wol_locale =~ /ubb=forum/) {
my $start = index($wol_locale,"&f=")+3;
my $f = substr($wol_locale,$start);

my @this_forum = &GetForumRecord($f);

$wol_locale = qq($vars_wordlets_mods{'whos_online_browsing'} "$this_forum[1]");
} else {
$wol_locale = qq($vars_wordlets_mods{'whos_online_viewing'} "$vars_wordlets_mods{whos_online_main_page}");
}
---------

[ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: Minichip ]

Minichip, that is not an error. WOL PHP will not open record files so that the main Perl processes will not be locked up reading those forum record files.

qasic

Ok, that's a point. But I think it is ugly if you present the raw url to a user. I guess most of the ubb members don't understand html and the think it is an error (at my board I get al lot of feedback about things that don't look right).

Any possibility to get the neccessary informations?

Ok I hate to say that it is possible in some way as I just visited a VB site and they have links clearly displayed along with a record book and it seemed pretty quick too... Or is VB totaly different? I saw they used a PHP extension so I am assuming...

qasic's code to fix the problem with ; in the url works. Here's the scoop from him:

This piece of code should help you get XHTML working with PHP accelerator with no problems. After the PHP version check near the top of ultimatebb.php, add below:


That'll fix it This will be automatically incorporated in WOL PHP later.

I install the Whoi's Online PHP here and translate the wordlets mods in french, but it's always write "guest"... It's a bug ?

Beta 0.2 Released!

v0.2 - 11/12/2001

(BUGFIX) When the IP of a User changes in a few minutes, the user is shown twice in whos online
(DETAILS) ultimatebb.php changed a bit to parse out based on usernumber, instead of pubname

(BUGFIX) When whos online is shown in ultimatebb.php, it doesn't look like "TheAngel, qasic, 2 Guests", it's look like "Theangel, qasic, 2"
(DETAILS) List most not coded correctly in ultimatebb.php. Fixed.

(DESIGNED) On the site of whos online, sometimes it doesn't show the name of the thread and the forum where a user is, it shows only the link to the thread
(DETAILS) If you visit a link via Perl, it shows the details. If you visit a part via PHP, it only shows the link because the PHP version does not open the associated file to lessen the server load the Perl version is prone to.

(BUGFIX) The link to a thread is not correct... it is "http://free2talk.de/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=25;t=000002" but it should be "http://free2talk.de/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=25&t=000002"
(DETAILS) Code was added in ultiamtebb.php to parse by ; without the need to modify php.ini

(BUGFIX) Also spaces in user names show up as '%20'
(DETAILS) Fixed using the urldecode feature of PHP for public names.

(UNABLE TO CONFIRM) doesn't track everyone and only shows me on some pages
(DETAILS) Can you please provide more details?

(UNABLE TO CONFIRM) Is invisible working or did I code something wrong?
(DETAILS) Can you provide more details?

(UNABLE TO CONFIRM) For instance, I check the who's online page, when before I saw "Snake Grunger, roundeye, canistr, and 2 guests.", but now I only see myself, which means they've been quickly erased.
(DETAILS) What's the IP for each of these people?

(BUGFIX) install the Whoi's Online PHP here and translate the wordlets mods in french, but it's always write "guest"...
(DETAILS) Wordletized Guest

qasic

[ 11-12-2001: Message edited by: qasic ]

thanks alot qasic, i installed the updated hack and it works great (untill now at least)

keep it up, we love you!

Warning: chmod failed: Operation not permitted in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 667

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 542

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 543

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 544

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 545

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 546

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php:667) in /vol/home2/sites/site1/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 514

Qasic, do you know what could be causing this error?

Its whenever you click on a forum.
URL: http://www.muddyatvs.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: RANCH4x4 ]

did you get the modified ultimatebb.php at:

http://www.qasic.net/getfile.php

Yeap, that was the 2nd thing I did.

Ranch4x4,

restore the ultimatebb.php that came with the default UBB. Then, e-mail your FTP/UBB login info so I can look into fixing this. Thanks!

qasic

Problem resolved... thanks Qasic.

Thanks for helping me out Ranch. The fixes associated with Ranch's UBB will be released this weekend (earlier if major bugs are found in this beta).

qasic

I installed the update.. looks great so far except that if I go from a post to ultimatebb.php it shows...

John - 2 15

I'm assuming that for some reason, I'm not getting the wordlets are not working. Has anyone else noticed this or have I hacked wrong?

That's a fairly easy problem to solve.

If you URL at the top is ultimatebb.cgi and you don't have the words, that
means you vars_wordlets_mods.cgi file is not correct.

However, if the URL at the top is ultimatebb.php and the wordlets don't
show up BUT they do show up in ultimatebb.cgi, then all you need to do is
resubmit your Who's Online PHP settings and then they should show up.

If by this step, the wordlets still do not show up, you are missing some
code inside cp.cgi - rehack cp.cgi using the Mod_Wordlets_ReadMe.txt file
and then resbumit your Who's Online PHP settings. This should finally
clear it up.

qasic

Question: Can someone explain how WOL PHP interacts with the cache.

[Begin layman speak] I would think that on a somewhat busy board like mine (18000 page views daily) the forum list display is hardly ever served from the cache because the last post is always changing ona minute by minute basis. Since I usually have anywhere from 30-100 people 'on-line' at any time, i assume that the WOL listing would be updating on a minute by minute basis and therefore again, not many pages served from the cache. Is this how it 'works'.

Sorry if this is a dumb Q. I'm great at installing hacks I just don't have a clue how one writes 'em

Steve

until the bugs are progressively worked out so that it can read the titles, etc. can this be set so that if you are on the php forum summary that it automatically says Viewing: Main Page and a list of forums can be selected from so that if you are in f=30 it would correspond to the correct forum name (ie: Browsing: V6.1 Mods in Beta)? It wouldn't have to read the data files to know that it was in a particular forum or on the main page.

Thread titles wouldn't be fixed still, but a good bit would be and wouldn't have to read any data files. (this would actually be a decent idea for the perl version as well, since forum titles and main pages rarely change and could be updated from the cp when they were - no data reading of forum titles would be needed.)

Another thing to "pretty up" the WOL page. If you can't read thread titles, can you give it a general title of "topic" so it can say:

AllenAyres Reading: " Topic " in V6.1 Mods in Beta

The forum title would come from the previously setup list of forum titles.

These 2 improvements would make a huge difference in the way the WOL page is displayed.

Wanted to ask, if there is another possibility then copy and paste all the time!???

Thanks.. I will give it a try tonight...

Update... all fixed. Thanks.

John

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: diettalk ]

Here are a couple errors to hash over

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: callwol() in /home/www/reeftalk/test/ubb/cache-PLU4K53J/ubb_files/forum_page/Forum1/forum1-20.cgi on line 229


Fatal error: Call to undefined function: callwol() in /home/www/reeftalk.com/test/ubb/cache-PLU4K53J/ubb_files/summary/summary.html on line 169


I cleared cache and even tried deleting these files and recreated the errors then also.

Seems if your in a forum and try clocking back on the name of your board you get the one error and the other whe trying to enter a forum through a category.

go to http://www.reeftalk.com/test/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi and play and you will see what I mean.

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: omegatron ]

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: omegatron ]

Steve55: To put it simply, a file in the cache calls WOL. If you don't get served a cached file, it's obvious that Perl will perform the WOL related stuff. Does this clarify it?

AA: All appearance and feature sets are locked in pending the release of UBB 6.2 in December.

oliwood: Yup but they're not supported.

omegatron: Your test URL doesn't work?

qasic

I forgot to put the .com on the end of reeftalk. it works now

http://www.reeftalk.com/test/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: omegatron ]

Can you please restore the public_forum_summary.pl and restore my version of ultimatebb.php so I may see if I can debug the problem? Thx!

qasic

That's a possible public beta of 6.2 in December, it could easily run into February or March (or later) if history is any indicator of a finished version.

If development is as far as it's gonna go, I'll just pull it, as it's definitely alpha/beta code and we are pushing for finished modifications only onsite.

if your talking to me qasic that is your ultimatebb.php file there.

AA, I'll have to say that I'm by surprised by your decision but that's your choice. The WOL code is pretty stable now .. that's why I removed the alpha phrase

omegatron, I just went to this URL: http://www.reeftalk.com/test/ubb/ultimatebb.php
and found this error in the top: Warning: fopen("","a+") - Success in /www/reeftalk/test/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 613


I can tell you that there's no such code in ultimatebb.php . Are you sure you using my version of ultimatebb.php .. furthermore .. is XHTML templates intefering with this hack here?

qasic

Qasic that may be a variable to consider there are allens templates there yes.

I will replace the xtml files with regular ones and you can try again. YES THAT IS YOUR DISTRIBUTION ULTIMATEBB.PHP FILE.

QASIC,

Major update. Since there were no other hacks but who's online on my test board. It is safe to say XHTML Templates were the culprit

I replaced the templates with the stock UBB templates and Who's Online works great. It carries into every forum etc.

It doesn't break the site, but really doesn't work well either... I get random results whenever I pull it up - both on the WOL page itself and within the forums, the links to bare URL's are pretty ugly, we get blank usernames (not "guest" or "username") at times, etc.

I really appreciate all the work you have put into it, but in its present form is not something I can recommend for anyone to install on their live site. If no further development is going to be done, I can't keep it up here and still practice what we've been preaching in the dev forum. Should things change, I'll be the first one to install it. Thanks again.

> I get random results whenever I pull it up
Hmm .. how come no one else has reported this?

> the links to bare URL's are pretty ugly,
You're the only person being vocal on this I think pretty much everyone
is satisfied with how the things are right now. Without totally rewriting
WOL, I think this is a fair compromise right now given the fact that CC's
version of WOL is coming along fairly nicely I hear.

> blank usernames
I defintely CANNOT confirm that. Can you provide more details?

qasic

The results show me sometimes when I enter forums, sometimes it doesn't. Other people (members and guests) appear and disappear randomly.

When viewing the WOL page, the column for the users almost always had at least one blank spot, The topic or forum would be displayed for that row, but neither guest or member name appeared in its column.

Aesthetics have always been in the eye of the beholder, but you gotta admit it's a couple steps back from the other version of WOL people are used to.

I am used to beta/alpha code and am willing to run it/ beta test it - as long as development continues onto a finished status. If development stops at alpha/beta status I can't keep it installed here and be practicing what we discuss in the dev forum.

Again, yes, the WOL for 6.2 is coming along nicely, but it could easily be february or march before it reaches a finished status. Stopping development at this stage is a good bit premature, tho I understand time constraints.

I've seen members and Guests mysteriously disappear at times.

will the current WOL-PHP install on 6.1.0.3?

i would like to upgrade but not if i lose WOL!

I hate to say this but AllenAyers is right. I have exact same problem. I tried with ubb-cache option on and without but results were same.
I thought only thing that i could blame for this problem was ubb-cache but it turns out to be that wasn't..
anyhow..still it's nice to hear that Quasic keep trying to make it works.

Thanx Quasic.

[ 11-16-2001: Message edited by: junoman ]

File compare it (the changes for 6.1.0.3) in with Beyond Compare from http://www.scootersoftware.com

I don't think invisibility works. I've yet to see an instance of invisbile users either here or at my place.

Also, will the "record book" be implemeneted in the near future?

Yes, I have WOL working on 6.1.0.3... I used Beyond Compare to transfer over the 6.1.0.2. I just hope the mysterious vanishing members problem will be fixed soon.

I downloaded beyond compare and am now wondering how i ever managed without it! WOLphp runs fine now on 6.1.0.3.

Qasic, please continue your great work on WOLphp.. (at least untill WOL is integrated in UBB in 2002) As far as I'm concerned it's the best hack ever for UBB! We need it!

it showed a guest on whos online "guest (invisible)" on my whos online. I wasn't even logged in ...

i have a prob with the who's online summary page. whenever someone is on the "main page", the link for this is messed. eg, the link should be http://www.win-drivers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi , instead its http://www.win-drivers.co.uk/cgi-bin/http://www.win-drivers.co.uk/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.c gi

any ideas?

[ 11-25-2001 07:06 AM: Message edited by: hothitradio_com ]

plsss ?

Do this step TWICE in ultimatebb.cgi:

ty

how do i turn off register globals

new problem, I dont get linked to a php WOL, its a cgi WOL link

also another problem, https://ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=000706#000000

I guess i shouldve posted that here

[ 12-01-2001 12:12 PM: Message edited by: lg ]

In your php.ini file...

I can't get ultimatebb.php from http://www.qasic.net/getfile.php

[ 12-07-2001 08:45 AM: Message edited by: gohaku ]

When I try to open a forum I get this error:

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 542

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 543

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 544

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 545

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 546

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/vars_whos_online.inc.php:18) in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/ultimatebb.php on line 514

Any idea?

Yup, I can't get the WOL version of ultimatebb.php either. I select the file to upload and send it and then... nothing, just get returned to the http://www.qasic.net/getfile.php page.

Anyone managed to get in touch with quasic to find out whats going on?

I rehacked it and keep getting the same error, or this one:

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: callwol() in /home/sites/site82/web/ubb/cache-5TBDTM76/ubb_files/summary/summary.html on line 228

Any help would be appriciated

quote:

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Originally posted by Capt PPRuNe:
Yup, I can't get the WOL version of ultimatebb.php either. I select the file to upload and send it and then... nothing, just get returned to the http://www.qasic.net/getfile.php page.

Anyone managed to get in touch with quasic to find out whats going on?

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I just used that page successfully.