No, actually I don't recall that because I never saw it, but in any event, we never ran a BETA version--the only version of 6.0+ we've ran has been GOLD. Anyway, what Charles did was reply to a question of mine on infopoop's board in which he stated that in order for us to have a problem checked out, we'd have to remove all hacks and return to the original (stripped down) ubb version, insofar as "we (i.e. infopoop) do not support hacked boards". I'm still new at all this and just found it strange that one of the major hackers was in a position at infopoop to make that statement. It just sounded strange--still does--but I think I finally understand what he (infopoop) means. Maybe the tone of his message came across as somewhat condescending also, which probably did little to endear me :rolleyes: