Yup! Hot topic and current threads. But guess what, if you put the shoutbox in the center column then it goes haywire again, but put it in the third column and it looks fine. Same with a couple of the custom pal. Like my tidesticker. If I put it in the 1st column it the page renders properly. If I put it in the third column it goes nuts again. The center column also has a problem when I try to add a webring navbar set in a custompal box. I'll have to put it in the footer I guess.