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On my ubb I have checked the values and they are the same (ultimate.cgi) yet the contents of each cell react differently. It's DRIVING ME NUTS!!!

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Look at the inbox, the line beneath is as it should be, but the left side (online, forums etc..) has a gap either under the link or second text line in descriptions..

Aaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh

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Netscape gets really annoyed when you dont specify widths for each column. If you do it in one or two, you have to do it for all of them. And then in your forumsdisplay.cgi, you have widths that do not total 100%, so you're gonna have some problems there too.

You can probably fix blaring mistakes, but you are not going to get it to look the same in every browser pixel by pixel. And since most use one or the other, nobody is going to know the difference

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goodfellasweb.com

Yup, that coupled with the fact that HTML is a flawed environment..LOL

Someday if we live long enough, their will be a standard that is enforeced on browsers. Until then it's the daily sorrow of designers to check their work in every flippin browser they can find...

I use MSIE 5.5 as my main..

Anyway I fixed it. I took my original copy of ubb, and cut and pasted the effected code and it cleared up.. No time to spend wandering and wondering..

Thanks for the input!

C_P

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Actually, the last post column is still too wide in Nescape. Figures, huh? I wish I could help, but I dont know how the cells would react with all of the extra layout you added to that part of the page. But it looks great in IE!

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goodfellasweb.com

YIKES! I saw that just now..

*sigh* I dropped a NOWRAP statement.. All fixed.. Thanks!



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This message has been edited by C_P on September 26, 2000 at 04:45 PM

AHHH, nowrap... I wouldnt have guessed that.

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goodfellasweb.com

keep doing that. Even though some say IE is too lenient, the fact is that right now netscape just sucks, and that's no opinion. WHEN netscape 6 comes out, and IF a lot of people use it, headaches will start to subside. I've used the beta, it displays almost exactly like IE.

as for the topic question....well, HTML has its quirks, especially with NS. sometimes you just have to leave it at that, unfortunatly. I've had to drop a certain design a couple times because it would just NOT WORK with netscape, no matter what I did. crazy. still happens, but theres usually a simple fix.


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-david
I stand on my head and watch it all go away.

Yup, I have some pages that will not act the same. My lil tool is to use an invisible gif called spacer.gif. I use it to prop open unused cells, etc. The two thin lines on my ubb in shades of green, beneath the table top are done so with these spacers. I'd be lost without them. IE reads widths etc, as it feels like. Netscape reads them different. Ever see that Netscape will blow out if you leave a table element out, but IE will load to that point..! As for compatibility, I used Net for 3+ years, bought the upgrades etc. I got torked one day and tried IE 5.5, I stayed with it.
I used to think it was slow, but I guess faster processors (700 mhz) help afterall..

Anyone remember the 4.77 mhz machines..LOL
(I do, and 8 inches disks..LOL, and and...


TAPE DRIVES..LOL)




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well, see the thing is that theres a thin line between user-friendly and damn lenient.

see, if you used that one microsoft WYSIWYG editor (it's name escapes me), and then look at the code, you'll see that it leaves out certain table tags, so those pages only work in IE. HTML is supposed to allow for errors, but sometimes IE is a little too lenient.

However, it makes up for it in the fact that while being lenient, it also displays pages the way their creators wanted them to be seen.

Oh, and if you want an example of IE/NS **** , look here using IE, then using NS. ouch. hurts my pride.



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-david
I stand on my head and watch it all go away.

ummm...Allen? starring out "c-r-a-p" is a little much, no?

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-david
I stand on my head and watch it all go away.

Evil, I don't see the dif, unless you mean the fonts in the dropboxes..

What is the prob..?

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took me a minute to figure out what you were talking about.

if you looked a little closer, you would notice a lot of differences. Page titles and parts of paragraphs are cut off, font (sizes) are obviously different, and form elements are not displayed the same way. Its a royal pain in the ass.

I've already got a fair amount done, and now I have to go back and re-evaluate my design, and figure out how to make it work well in both browsers.

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-david
I stand on my head and watch it all go away.