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UBBDEV Members,
I would like to remind all of you, that we are not here to break the ubb copyright agreement at all.
This includes, but not limited to, removed copyright or powered by notices, and a pirated ubb. Pirated ubb, meaning you did not buy it yourself, but downloaded it from an illegal site, not having a license and still using the UBB, or giving your files to someone.
We ask you all not to break the agreement, or we will report you to Infopop immediately.

Also note, please do not post pirated UBB topics here - report them to [email protected] or to me to be forwarded.

Thank You.

I agree. I report first, notify second.

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Another thing i always do, is take some kind of confession on AIM, and report it.
I always have a screenshot handy too.

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I couldn't possibly agree more... We work hard and pay for what we have... it is just proper and correct to have everyone else return the same.
I pay my dues and think it is well worth it. Everyone else should do the same. I for one agree- try to pirate something from me, I will turn you in... without a second thought.

welcome jlaine... glad you're aboard... we eat pirates for lunch here...

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I couldn't agree more with you Mastermind, very well said.


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thanks everyone!

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Thank you for the welcome Allen- I have no idea how I will be of assistance here but I will certainly try to add my marginal skills to the board here.


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jlaine -

I'm sure you'll help out more than you could possibly ever imagine. Welcome!!

- DB

I'm not sure who to notify but if you to http://pd64.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro&BypassCookie=true you will notice that they are hiding the copyright.

hmm, I can see it.

and as for piracy, I gotta stand with u guys. most people on my forums know how much of a fing rat I am. I've even turned a freind in for killing a frame on his site.

ya know, sometimes I wonder how sites hosted on places like hypermart that have 1 member and get know hits can possibly be legit. oh well.

hey, is there any way tospot a pirated ubb while jus cruising the net?

If infopop would agree to add a public data file (maintained & updated Only by themselves), we could write / modify many different scripts that could do the job of Lic verification. Shoot, the internet if full of text file verification scripts. If they truely want to stop the "Piracy" then they need to employ some sort of self governing system to allow ligit UBB Lic owners to help verify UBB's. It would be "Impossible" for Infopop to police this themselves, therefor; We need to "help" them if they are to succeed in the reduction / elimination of pirated UBB's. Thay already have the file / script, we use it all the time to get new downloads from their site.

The information displayed doesn't have to be extensive, something like:

Lic To -> Host Name: www.lala_land.com
Effective Date: xx/xx/xxxx
Exp Date: xx/xx/xxxx
Disposition: Current / Expired / In transition.

The UBB Lic agreement clearly states, that one must have a (Purchased !!) Lic copy for each board running. That makes verification easy. The hard part is "Finding" the pirated UBB's behind the maze of security systems and firewalls.

That's my 0.02 cents, for what it's worth.

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well said.

I allways thought it'd be a good idea to do that, but u know that 10mins after they did this some cheap-ass hacker will have found a way around

MasterMind: - Here is one for you to go after. I've already sent a message to Ted via Navaho:

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This micron fella is a real testiment to why I think we should form a an Orginization or Coalition Against Piracy (CAP) CAP - Their @sses is what I say.

ERRRRRRRGGGG - This pisses me off something fearce !!!!!!!!

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Reported.

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Errr...
Dont u think u should edit out that link to the cgi warez now¿

why doesn't infopop makes a search engine to find out if a site does have a license or not.

just an idea



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So this sort of site http://beddingbox.com/ms/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro is not allowed because it removes the copyright info? (not mine by the way)

What sort of action do infopop take against these types of boards? Is it a stern email saying not to do it again or do they try to shut the site down?

That one is a freeware one, but it's still a license infringement to remove the copyright notices.

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yeah, infopop piracy is way out of hand, but so is all piracy.

UBBDEV Members:

Please note that while we do not promote the use or creation of pirated software, we are not in the business of "witch hunting."

However, if you have an illegal UBB and you continue to post references to it here and enter our contests with it, then we will have to take actions because we do not want InfoPop coming down on us.

I'm going to adopt a saying from the military here to help explain my point:

"DON'T ASK, DON'T TELL."

Got it? Good.

- DB

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I can not agree with you more MasterMind. I hate it when I have to pay for something and someone just steals it. That is wrong! I will be sure to report any suspecious boards to Brett Harris.

Heheh i love going on hunts, i have reported probably about 20+ I find it fun to search through the internet to try to find pirated versions, It's sad too. You can even find stuff like vb, and anything you can imagine. OH well hmmmm i'm getting the urge to go searching again brb. lol

How do you tell if it's pirated?

Oh we know ... see, UBBDEV has secret agents all over the world: in bars, in coffeehouses, in restuarants ... all watching every move the American public is making. You never know if your best friend or even your girlfriend/boyfriend is one of our own! So how do we know if its pirated? How do you know that it isn't?

- DB

But tell me, how do you really know? I can understand if they're giving it out or it's an FTP site, but how else can you know? (Besides missing copyrights...)

But tell me, how do you really know? I can understand if they're giving it out or it's an FTP site, but how else can you know? (Besides missing copyrights...)

Sorry for the double post...

Ladies and Gents, another thing you need to be careful of is using copyrighted images for your sites. If you want to really be scared, forget horror flics, drop by any site about copyrights.

There is a lot of talent here, be safe and develop your own images. Don't take the easy road to look cool, and end up in a court battle you never wanted.
My two cents..

Also come to think of it, if Infopop shuts down a board and let's it drop there, they were being nice. They could really go for the gold if you catch my drift. Buy your license, or join a forum like this and be part of making it great!

Look at Napster.. something like a 5 billion dollar fine.. Hmmmmm how many lawns would you have to cut?

[ March 07, 2001: Message edited by: C_P ]

I don't think they want to tell us ;), even though I have reported a piracy UBB before, but the one way I knew that it was a piracy UBB was because he ACTUALLY told me that he downloaded it...

btw what about if someone gaved it to you?
and that person has a licence?

did happend to me, my friend has a ubb with a licence and I helped him much and he saw me using ezboard and asked me if I wanted a ubb and I said yes.

Is this piracy??

Yes, Yeechie, this is also piracy. You are only allowed one running copy of the UBB per license.

Finding ubb's is seasy. Type in Ultimate.cgi into a search engine.. You'll find a few right there.. Then it's just a matter of click and go...

Does anyone think they are really able to hide here online?

Finding ubb's is seasy. Type in Ultimate.cgi into a search engine.. You'll find a few right there.. Then it's just a matter of click and go...

Does anyone think they are really able to hide here online?

Bah so now I am doing piracy

Well, of course you can search for them, but how do you know it's pirated?

Gee, if we all gave away our investigative techniques, pirates would use that against us

If you really want guideline, e-mail Infopop and once they've confirmed you're a legit user, they can send you details on how to spot pirated/illegal UBBs.

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I am going to say my thoughts.
I pay for my lic. and I run and maintain all my own servers it all cost money. At least in America every thing here worth having cost money. (in a material sence)
If I find a pirated UBB Im going to turn it in so looking at my name here if you have a pirated UBB dont talk to me because your just going to cause me unnessasary work in writing e mails and makeing phone calls.
There are enough substandard free boards out there if you want UBB you need to pay for it just like I do If I was a Moderater here this is where I would be saying Topic Closed.........
Sorry If Im to the point but someone else taking something for free that I pay for is a insult to me and any other webmaster paying for there Ubb.

Ya grass!!! people like you make me sick, i pay for my licence yeh, but im not a grass like you, i ****ing hate people like you, dont know how you can sleep at night, ya sad twat!!!!!!!!!!

Go to hell and i speadk for many thousands if not millions!!!!!!!