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You'll have to disable cache.


I just checked the scripts you mentioned. They all are passing categories. It has to be that your caching the information.

Set cache times to 0 to turn them off.

Oh, also forgot, set "force public" to 0 because otherwise it clears the Cat variable when generating IIP pages.

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Would be cool if the members could select what "category" their website fit in when they input their website name, that would allow these :
https://www.ubbdev.com/index.php?Cat=&paction=membersites

to be able to look like these: https://ubbdev.com/links/


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I have always thought there should be "more" to the member's sites page and this will be very doable once I get the link directory I am using on my main site cleaned up and smoothed out for IIP use. What is needed is a category table and an additional 2 fields in the w3t_Users table to store a link "title" and the category it belongs to. Then when displaying the member's sites you could draw in the categories from the link directory and break it down that way.

The link directory is something I *have* to have for my main site so I may well put this feature before a few others for 6.0's release.

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Profile index page
the Add to Address Book and
Show all posts buttons are broke, member pics arent showing (on my site, looks ok here?), and in the 2nd column the Extra2 field isnt showing the name, it says "Extra 2"

Quickest version so far.. I was able to add a couple extra pals to my page without increasing the load time.

Thanks again for this excellent mod!

If I were you I would at least make a link available in your profile or something that points to a PayPal box where (if people wanted) they could donate a lil bit just to say thanks or something. Maybe no one will donate, maybe so... But we definitely wont if you dont give us a way to...


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Thanks for the tip. I'll look that script over again.

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so many features in one mod!

I was curious about how you see this mod used by the majority of ubbt owners.. Do you expect most of them will use this as their root level home page?

If so, it should be called Home, not Entrance...

If its used as an entrance, as it says, then how about adding the choice to use the entrance as my start page when logging in..

I thought a lot about how I could best integrate this mod into my site and I personally would much rather have almost every one of these individual pals available to me for use throughout my site, not just on the entrance page by using includes in my header.tmpl. For instance:

- using the login pal on every page...
- using the topthreads pal on the postlist page for forum2 only (by putting the pal in a custom header for instance)
- using the pollpal on every page
- using the profilepal on every page

I was just curious how you envisioned it being used.. Because I mean you have a lot of configuration on how the page itself can be displayed, but If I personnally were going to use this as MY home page, there would be a LOT of things I would like to change. Maybe that's just me

I would like to recommend that you pretend you have never been to a message board before and then take a good look at ubbthreads.com's home page (iip)

Hitting this page truthfully confused me the first time I saw it.. There is no logical flow to it..Among other things, to use it as my home page I need a big "Welcome to my site! This is what we do... Click here to enter the forums and look around"

As a first time visitor I have felt almost bombarded with with stats and information and polls and top posters from a whole web site I dont know even the basics about yet..

Clicking on any link on the pages puts everywhere but the Main Index.. Wouldnt the logical flow be from Entrance to Main Index to A Category or forum to a thread? IIP now throws you from Entrance to thread, leaving you to learn to navigate out or click back to return to the Entrance

The link to the Main Index (I think) should be the biggest link on the page.. Newbies need direction, the other members know to look for the itty bitty "Main Index" link at the top of the page and/or they understand what all the stats/info on the index page mean, and they use your mod as it was intended.

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Ok... here goes...

posted by webwolfe:

I was curious about how you see this mod used by the majority of ubbt owners.. Do you expect most of them will use this as their root level home page?

If so, it should be called Home, not Entrance...



I actually have no idea how most users use this. I just know how I want to use it. LoL but, they can rename the language file entry to what ever they want so it's just a matter of preference, I guess. One of the things that kept me from calling it "Home" was that it wasn't always used as the "main" index page on a site but sometimes as a secondary index within the forum area. But then again it's changeable to what ever the admin wants.


posted by webwolfe:

If its used as an entrance, as it says, then how about adding the choice to use the entrance as my start page when logging in..



This has been done before as far as making modifications to .threads to allow for such a thing. It's a more involved hacking job to make it so but it's not that bad. I had ran into a bug with my test site (older version) where I could not view "my home" because it always took me back to the entrance. I can't remember what the problem was but I had to use phpmyadmin to fix it.


posted by webwolfe:

I thought a lot about how I could best integrate this mod into my site and I personally would much rather have almost every one of these individual pals available to me for use throughout my site, not just on the entrance page by using includes in my header.tmpl. For instance:

- using the login pal on every page...
- using the topthreads pal on the postlist page for forum2 only (by putting the pal in a custom header for instance)
- using the pollpal on every page
- using the profilepal on every page



I have done used almost every pal in this manor on my 6.0 test site. Now that I'm using templates you can wrap a .threads template call with IIP's and have IIP's information available. I mentioned this somewhere around here already though. It takes like 3 or 4 lines of new code per .threads page to do this.


posted by webwolfe:

I would like to recommend that you pretend you have never been to a message board before and then take a good look at ubbthreads.com's home page (iip)

Hitting this page truthfully confused me the first time I saw it.. There is no logical flow to it..Among other things, to use it as my home page I need a big "Welcome to my site! This is what we do... Click here to enter the forums and look around"



I guess I didn't think it was any worse than to walk into a *nuke site. An admin doesn't have to use all of IIP's boxes though. IIP 5.0's index page can be edited to include such a "welcome box". With 6.0's template layout I have placed a great BIG honking welcome box in the middle of the page... LoL of course since it's a template it's removeable or whatnot.


posted by webwolfe:

As a first time visitor I have felt almost bombarded with with stats and information and polls and top posters from a whole web site I dont know even the basics about yet..



Again this is a matter of prefference. An admin doesn't have to use every IIP box on their index page.


posted by webwolfe:

Clicking on any link on the pages puts everywhere but the Main Index.. Wouldnt the logical flow be from Entrance to Main Index to A Category or forum to a thread? IIP now throws you from Entrance to thread, leaving you to learn to navigate out or click back to return to the Entrance



Should this content have misleading links that all end up going directly to the main index or category list instead of what they actually are refering to? I guess I see no point in providing links to anything if they all go to the main index. Why not just have one big link centered on the page that says "click here" to simplify things?


posted by webwolfe:

The link to the Main Index (I think) should be the biggest link on the page.. Newbies need direction, the other members know to look for the itty bitty "Main Index" link at the top of the page and/or they understand what all the stats/info on the index page mean, and they use your mod as it was intended.



This is completely controllable by the site's admin. They can edit the navigational templates and modify it to how want it to look. One could even wrap this link with the "standouttext" class so it's more visible yet controlable by the style sheets.






To sum things up as far as how I view IIP it's pretty simple. About 2 years ago I would have paid someone to write the things I'm creating now for my website then. Of course I couldn't afford to do that so I muddled through. Two years later I still can't afford to pay someone to do the things I'm creating for myself for my website but I am muddling through a little bit better so it's not that bad. I'm glad too that others are using this and providing feedback and helping find the errors and whatnot as it helps greatly. I do listen to suggestions and requests and try to work things in when possible but it's not always easily done. Some of the these more difficult requests require modifying .threads much more than I care to get into with for fear of how much explaining it will take when things don't work. At this point I think 5.0 needs very little modification to be done on .threads to work. Unfortunately the features of 6.0 will require more .threads modifying to work but I guess it should be expected. In the end I just hope this helps those that are at where I was 2 years ago start off not having to muddle as much as I did... LoL

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I really dont mean to criticize your work. You are (to me) on a neverending journey of ending one version of IIP to begin the next.

If I can reply now and get you thinking from a perspective you didnt consider before I feel we all benefit in the long run.

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Your last post sidetracked me but I remembered what it was I was going to post... lol

I updated profilepal.php. The links "Edit this member", "Add to address", "Send private message" and "show all posts" seem to be working here now. The new file is in this main post's IIP 5.0 attachment.

I have never used the "add to address" feature and it wasn't clear that it had actually added the name. When I clicked on it it displayes the profile of that user. I think the whole "add to address" thing should go to the users's actual address book listing instead.

Edit note: make that the post before your last post... lol

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Okay - maybe I'm a dolt - but - I'm running UBBThreads6.1br, have followed the simple instructions for the 5.0 IPP and when I open index.php in my browser window I get a ubb screen that says:

Index Closed

We are currently updating this page.

and the additional copyright info I'm supposed to click on for the config page and no link.

?

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hehe well actually the journey I'm on is to get my main website updated before 2003. I have been spending to little time on it and have a huge list of things that need to be done. *sigh*

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Are you logged in and an administrator of the site? I believe you should see the link if so. I'll check the index page once more to make sure I didn't forget anything to make sure.

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Dave,

Just installed this - as you know I am never straightfoward

Would it be easy to allow for the pals folder to be in a different directory to threads?

I have got it working, by altering several links in several pals, but there is probably a quicker way

If not do not worry - I will edit manually.

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Yes. Well I CAN log in as admin and get my admin options for UBBT6.1br - then I can either open a new browser window and open index.php which I've put in "the desired location" which happens to be the site root www.GlenLachart.co.uk/index.php and I get the same thing - no soap. Does the index.php file need to be somewhere besides the root?

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This is what I get at the bottom of the page:

UBB.threadsâ„¢ 6.1b1
.: IIP 5.0 by David Lozier ©2002 :.
no link

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[]Yes. Well I CAN log in as admin and get my admin options for UBBT6.1br - then I can either open a new browser window and open index.php which I've put in "the desired location" which happens to be the site root www.GlenLachart.co.uk/index.php and I get the same thing - no soap. Does the index.php file need to be somewhere besides the root?


I was also missing the link - maybe it doesn't ike the British



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Actually no there is no easy way. I did away with about 9 "options" (paths/urls) to simplify setup. That's why the instructions say to place it in your .threads directory and not move anything. This cut down on alot of "why this" and "that dont" lol

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Are your cookies set site wide? If not then the page doesn't recognize your admin auth.

I forgot to add that check in there as this happens *alot*.

I'll bet your cookies are not site wide.

And I'll also be putting in a check right now. LoL

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Ack... guess I didn't put that into the "setup" text file. I have changed the setup instructions as follows:

Step 4.

If your placing the index.php page outside of your .threads install directory you will need
to make your cookies "site wide" so that the index page can authenticate the viewer. The next
step will not work unless you have done this step. In the .threads config.inc.php file find this:

$config['cookiepath'] = "";

to this:

$config['cookiepath'] = "/";



Step 5.

Load the index page into your browser and click on the IIP copyright link at the bottom
of the page to access the configure panel. Follow all steps in the "INITIAL SETUP"
box and set the other box values as desired.





Sorry about that...

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ah ha, Okay now after scrolling thru the UBBT config settings where do i set cookies "site wide"? Doesn't seem to be an option in there for that

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okay I'm an idjit - found it

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Webwolfe,

I personally think IIP is the greatest thing going since sliced bread. I personally chant "JustDave" each evening when visiting my site and thank my stars for all the awesome mods of his I use there.

I think IIP can be used as a home page to a site... but I agree.. it can be confusing out of the box.

If people find your site's home page (IIP) and don't know what it is about or how it works... IIP won't help them.

But, with minimal modification to IIP you can "work with it" and add the needed information to it.

The first thing I did Is create a forum to put stuff that I want on the home page, and set it up as the first "news" forum for it to pull from. I turned the HTML on, and turned off pictures and dates etc... for it.

If you look at my home page... www.measurection.com

The first post I've got "stuck" there.. is a post explaining what the site is about.... and in our case... while it's not porn... we do have adult topic discussions, so my warning goes there.

Below it we rotate in a banner.... it's simply a post with a HTML banner in it, and the other Admin changes those from time to time by hand.

Below that, I've got a rather large sticky post where I paste comments and testimonials I receive from our users. How they feel better, how our site has changed their lives... that type of thing.

So that the new visitor can get a vibe for what our site is, simply by reading down the cneter column of the home page.

Below that, we've got another ad.... then I pull in the begining of my latest "how to" post for the site... then below that, we recap the 5 most recent posts in our main forum. These change by the minute and thus the front page keeps changing.

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I've also created a few "generic" pal boxes.. where I have placed throughout the page some Amazon.com Product Links. These generate a little revenue and add some interesting graphics to the front page.

The Menu
I've modified the menu a bit, to offer a direct link to our photo galleries (a pay service) and another link 'Browse our Forums' which take them to the ubbthreads.php index page. Just another way "in" if they are confused about what to click or where to go.


In another site that I set up... one that is not nearly as active and does not use IIP for it's home page, I tweaked IIP a bit as well.

View: http://www.atlantasingleschoir.com/messageboard/

You'll note in the first post I've got "stuck" to the top right (I use only 2 columns here)... I've made links to certain forums... and important posts. These were just simple links, made in a post using UBB code... very simple and no "deep" modifications to the PHP.


These suggestions may not work for anybody but me... but in my opinion, they are little things which help if you were trying to use IIP as a "home page".

On the measurection site, since the begining, it was just a splash page... with a warning and an Enter / Exit button before you got to threads. So new users find it much more "interesting" as it's always changing... making us look "happening" and active.

We even have a member who is totally blind. He relies totally on screen reading software. He has to tab line by line, box by box, and graphic by graphic and listen to what it is. Yet he has only been there a few months and has like 300 posts... so he's pretty active. He relies heavily on the "Current" and "Most Recent" pals... as otherwise he can't tell what's new until he get's email subscriptions for each forum which his software can read to him.
But he knows to get to the home page... and look at (or listen to) the current and most recent threads, and he can actively participate in the discussions, without having to wait for the subscriptions to go out.
BTW - Just an aside.. this man has far less technical issues and questions than a majority of our full-sighted members.

Just my 4 1/2 cents on IIP.

Keep up the great work Dave!!!!!!

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[]I'll bet your cookies are not site wide.


You lost you bet LOL

Mind you I just realised that I know why I did not have the link - and this will affect some of the older threads installations around (ie pre IP days)





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Your welcome

And thanks for finding that missing step

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posted by JustDave:
Actually no there is no easy way. I did away with about 9 "options" (paths/urls) to simplify setup. That's why the instructions say to place it in your .threads directory and not move anything. This cut down on alot of "why this" and "that dont" lol


Oh well - never mind - just means that I will have to edit it for each install - why didn't I choose a straight foward forum to run


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lol yes I would say your forum setup could easily be considered as "not straight forward".

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Sorry[]lol yes I would say your forum setup could easily be considered as "not straight forward".



Sorry - must remember not to use a feature of the software that no one else uses


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Don't take that the wrong way... I just have to wonder if ther are any other sites out there with 150+ categories... eeek! LoL

That has to be a nightmare managing...

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posted by canvey:
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I'll bet your cookies are not site wide.


You lost you bet LOL

Mind you I just realised that I know why I did not have the link - and this will affect some of the older threads installations around (ie pre IP days)







hehe ok guess I owe you a free IIP 6.0 upgrade when it's out.


ohhhh ohhhh, quoting a quote don't look so good... had to modify the post to add the inner quote start tag...

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Thanks Josh

It's good to hear IIP's added to your site. I was wondering, is there anything that could be done that would make your blind member's browsing easier? Now that IIP is XHTML 1.0 transitional compliant it should help.

Let me know if there is and I will keep it in mind when working on things.

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[]Don't take that the wrong way... I just have to wonder if ther are any other sites out there with 150+ categories... eeek! LoL

That has to be a nightmare managing...


250 almost!! Not all visible at the moment mind!

Only snag is that I have to add IIP for each category


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posted by JustDave:
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posted by JustDave:

I'll bet your cookies are not site wide.


You lost you bet LOL

Mind you I just realised that I know why I did not have the link - and this will affect some of the older threads installations around (ie pre IP days)







hehe ok guess I owe you a free IIP 6.0 upgrade when it's out.


ohhhh ohhhh, quoting a quote don't look so good... had to modify the post to add the inner quote start tag...


Yep - I think it is the quick reply mod - I have the same problem - I did mention it on this post


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posted by canvey:
posted by JustDave:

Don't take that the wrong way... I just have to wonder if ther are any other sites out there with 150+ categories... eeek! LoL

That has to be a nightmare managing...


250 almost!! Not all visible at the moment mind!

Only snag is that I have to add IIP for each category





Ack... that's alot of installing... the cats should work when caching is off and force public is not used. I made sue the variable was being passed by every form I could find and every link that needed it.

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Dave, just as another compliment...

Just today I recieved yet another brand new member saying how incredibly awesome my site is. The past few weeks I see other new members saying it is now their homepage, or they can't help but surf on it all day long, etc.

I mean, I don't have any content other than the posts users provide, yet your index makes everything available so easily users just love it. Everyone is always commenting on how professional it looks, or how much I paid for it, etc.

Its great, because as an admin, I really don't have to spend countless hours editing webpages anymore I have some suggestions, but I will offer those a bit later Keep up the great work.

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Thanks msula

I really like how your site's looking with IIP and I must say it keeps getting better. Your going to love 6.0


Oh and hey, as far as suggestions go I do keep looking at the IIP suggestion thread in the forum. Please feel free to list them there as it does help keep track and I do forget things... lol

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6 will be easy to use custom pal boxes correct? A weather pal box is going to be sweet If I ever get around to getting my recovery list script working, I will be in great shape

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Yes I think as far as customization goes 6.0 will lend itself well because of the template use. The index page has a template unto itself. The exterior pages for Recommend Us, Profile Index, Member's Sites, Picture Posts, Attachment List and Poll List have their own templates also but are also wrapped by a left column, center colum, right column or an open full layout template. It's these last 4 wrapping templates that will allow you to wrap any .threads template. This means you can place a left column of IIP's boxes on your forum list or post list pages or where ever. Or use one of the other 3 wrapper templates in the same manor. It's slick! LoL

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Hi,

Is there any chance of language support like in standard ubbt?

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Yes I redid the langauge files for 6.0 and now all language variabes are in one array:

$pal_lang['some_description_here'] = "Blah blah blah";

As far as other languages already added there is only english though.

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