UBB.Developers Forums Announcements Announcements Next Generation Product

It's housed in an underground facility. You wont be seeing it until public beta at the soonest. Heck, just the other day a photographer was trying to take pictures and Capps shot him dead.

That Capps... you gotta be careful around that dude... he broke my arm one time for trying to get a picture of Infopop's top-secret next-gen graemlin technology.

I KNOW YOU HAVE IT, INFOPOP!!! I WILL NOT REST UNTIL GRAEMLINS 2.0 IS MINE!!!

---Jamin

*evil, bone-chilling cackle*

:puts feather away: it wasn't me!

Is this product still to be released in the spring? Any place we can go to read more information? Anyone testing the product current? Will it be cheaper?

So many questions....So many questions...

I will be looking forward to it..

Will it be released in the spring: As far as I know

Anwhere we can go to read more info: There is an announcement at UBBCentral about the new product, nothing has been said since then.

Anyone testing the product: There is a beta team.

Will it be cheaper: If I told you I'd have to kill you.

I don't think it's going to be released until "next generation".

Is there any way to be automatically notified when this new product is ready? I'd like to be amongst the first to run it.

We'll most likely send out an email to the members here, that should do it for anyone who accepts email from the site

I want to see some screen shots! or beta sites!

Thanks. Back to your regularly scheduled flogging.

I can guarentee you that there are none of either lol

Please... for the love of everything sacred and holy... give us SOMETHING! Give us a screenshot. Give us a release date. Give us access to just ONE beta demo site. I don't care. Just give us ANYTHING!

I read in Infopop's (and/or Groupee's [*shudder*]) May newsletter that the NGP is behind schedule. This makes me sad. You have no idea how much I loathe PunBB. I originally moved away from Eve, and into PunBB, hoping that it would be a temporary thing, maybe a month or so until the NGP came out. But I absolutely hate PunBB, and I hate it more and more as I continue to use it. I really don't like phpBB. I really don't like Phorums. And I really don't like any of the other freebie forum packages.

It is this sheer hatred of PunBB that is giving me thoughts of... *gasp*... buying a vB license. Or even IPB, God help me. They're pretty. They seem (from the limited amount I've been able to see them on other sites) relatively easy to customize. They've got fairly big development/modding communities. And more importantly, they are available NOW, which means they would allow me to instantly rid myself of the horrible scourge to the forums market that is PunBB.

Seriously. Infopop. Groupee. Whatever you want to be called now. Just give us SOMETHING. Something to reassure me that I won't be disappointed after waiting this long, and suffering through PunBB for this long. That's all I ask. I really don't know how much longer I can deal with PunBB... even vBulletin is looking better than that...

---Jamin

Look at threads... look at classic... look at eve... now combine and swig back some vodka and there is NG

hehe, I don't think the beta team has rec'd copies of the new stuff to upload, hence the 'we're behind' speech www.ianspence.com will probably be the first place to see it in action.

Anybody that'd use software named punbb really deserves a lotta misery. I've never even heard of it



Why didn't you just move back to threads? Wouldn't have been that difficult to import and make pretty (yes, it can be made to look pretty, just not in its stock form ). Would be nice to be given the next estimated time of release instead of just "we're behind schedule".

As previously stated (in a few forums) some beta sites are:
www.undergroundnews.com
www.ianspence.com
www.nightly.net

just to name a few... None of the beta testers have open beta boards up

well there you go

In retrospect, I should have moved back to Threads. But several of my forum members used PunBB, and recommended it. On paper, it's actually not a half bad system... in practice, though, it's retarded. Sorta like communism.

At any rate, if this development stall continues much longer, I'll probably switch to Threads, as soon as I get the time to write my own import script. Took me HOURS to pull all my content out of Eve and into PunBB. Had to write my own script and all, gigantic pain in the hind quarters. Actually, on a side note, my membership expired before 6.5 was out, so the newest one I've got is 6.4, before the importer was added. So it probably would have taken just as long to import to Threads from Eve, too. Oh well. Lesson learned.

---Jamin

At this point, I'd just like to hear something - anything - to give us an idea of when we should expect the new product. The last newsletter left me more confused than ever.

I'm sure all of us understand that delays happen and programs don't always run the way we expect them to. But I've got multiple systems waiting for a PHP-based board before I can put them online. If it's going to be months before it's ready, I'd like to know that so I can consider other options (Threads, etc.) and go ahead and get the rest working. On the other hand, if it's just around the corner, it seems pointless to move everything over to Threads or another option only to turn around and do it all again.

Know what I mean?

it's not just around the corner, I can guarantee that

Agreed with Ian, it's a ways off before we expect to have our beta sites up.

I'd reccommend that you sign up for threads; afterall the license conversion to the new product for current licenses should (keyword should) be free. Additionally I'd also reccommend purchasing a license now rather than waiting for NG to come out...

Well, I don't mind making the conversion now and then upgrading to NG later on if you think that would be the best option. I'm really entirely unfamiliar with Threads, though... how close can I get to making Threads emulate Classic, so I don't have to shake up my users too much by constantly changing things around? Can anyone tell me any major features I'm going to lose by making the switch (or a place to look for that info)?

I realize these are questions that have been asked before, but I've done a bunch of digging both here and at ThreadsDev and can't seem to find any recent comparisons of the products. The old "comparison page" people have linked to in other threads doesn't seem to exist anymore, and Infopop/Groupee's current comparison page is entirely unhelpful. But I know that some people here (*cough*Gizzy*cough*) have expressed their love for Classic over Threads, so I'm wondering how much I'm going to lose (other than user interface changes) by making that switch now.

Also, Threads can import from Classic, right?

Thanks in advance, guys.

The importer in Classic/Threads should allow for a smooth migration.

And yes, as everyone well knows, I have a total undying hatred for threads ... I'd immagine with some boredom and html knowledge that anyone could hack up the threads templates (not to mention CSS code) to look like classic.

Bottom line, if you have enough threads/members that you NEED a PHP/MySQL solution; by all means, go to threads... At least you'll experiance the fun of modding away a fresh install again (which I haven't seen since UBB.Classic 6.5 due to Beyond Compare)...

threads imports well from classic

Other than interface changes (and there are some, but there's a few mods at threadsdev that helps a bit), there really isn't a whole lot different feature-wise that's major. You can hide forums from those who don't have access (admin forums from general users), and there's "page views" on topics and a calendar, but not much else, Charles has done a good job of adding features to classic over the last few years.

Up to you, but if you're looking for a php/mysql solution until the next generation is out, threads will do the job well

I guess threads shares the same dislike of me that I share for it....

Well, I've made the switch to Threads, and I've been wasting my life hacking away at it to make it more Classic-like... but, to be honest, it's really growing on me.

No small part of that is probably due to the fact that I despise Perl and adore PHP...

Thanks for the suggestion, guys. I'm actually pretty happy with this change, and it will help tide me over while NG is going through beta testing.

I made some ubb.classic skin posting page templates (which to me is the biggest shock to new threads users) at threadsdev, feel free to try them out, they're just an upload and run mod

Here we are in July with my membership renewal eight months behind me (just to get a copy of this new product).

Where does development stand with it as of now?

I would keep watching the newsletter, and the UBBCentral News Forum in addition to here.

I am super impatient right now, I shut down my site to wait for the NG and to re-design it. I was told within the beginning of the new year the last time I spoke to groupee.

Does anyone have anything at all?

I wouldn't go shutting down your site and waiting; never know when a development hurtle can be set; your best bet is keeping your site alive, commiting suicide is never an answer...

It wasn't that I committed suicide to my site, its that I had a run-in with my co-admin who was in major conflict with me in how to run the message board. So I decided to wait for NG to restart the boards again.

Now I have to wait.. and wait.. and wait.. it really bites.

I'd tell him to leave your .classic forum up until NG is released; else theres always a roshambo method ...

I'm in the process of refreshing the entire forums and starting over without him, saving half the members I had who I think won't outright leave. Twice I've been screwed over, I won't let anyone else have that much access to my board again.

The other worries I have is installing the spellcheck and a points hack into the board then not being able to upgrade to the NG without messing everything up and having to do it all over again.

NG will use the import/export function built into classic; this function only takes nessessary data from the member and thread files.

Will it also import the actual forums, forum names, and permissions settings for those forums that are in the UBB Classic? Or will the new Ultimate php product require you to rebuild your own forum index manually by creating the idential forums that your UBB classic has, before these import features for the threads data files can be imported?

No information on that has been posted publicly so I have no clue...

Your best bet however is to believe that Infopop will make everything as easy as possible for users to upgrade to the new product.

Of course Upgrading will be like butta

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is this thing on?

It hasn't been for a while

Charles Capps leaves Infopop (now Groupee), oh my god, thats not good news for the new product I think....