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What do you think about the future of UBB.threads?
I worry about it every night. Today, most people who want to switch thier UBB.classic to a PHP/MySQL solution choose vBulletin or PhpBB. However, UBB.threads is superior compared to the competition in the fields of architechture and support. vBulletin's support is only mediocre, and their developers always like to bash Infopop's products. But unfortuantely with what I am seeing now, UBB.threads may turn out to be a failure. We should keep our hopes up.
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Pink.... Wait til you see the 6.4 changelog - which Rick will post when 6.3 goes Final.  Muwa ha ha ha 
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Yes... right now, you're right. Most people do flock to vb and such... but remember, these products have been around for much longer than threads, and threads is new and has been essentially re-written from the ground up to provide the best performance.
vbulletin has been just hacked and added features upon the already messy code.. sure, it has a lot of crap in it, but most of it people either don't use, or it just causes the software to be a bit slower. How long have we been hearing about vb 3.0? Over a year? Longer? If you look at the current beta, it is essentially basic VB with some minor enhancements, but mostly just the implimentation of hacks that people created to make it even more bulky.
As Josh stated, wait until 6.4, the software will be taking a huge leap forward as far as features and such are concerned, and it will begin to really take shape. Given the time to grow, it will start to really take off.
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I only worry about it when I break my F5 button in the Member's area (which I have open lo even this Friday night)  I always want more more more and faster faster faster... it'll be there, I just need some fresh air more often.
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After much reflection, I see the trend for InfoPop is a more "serious" customer. Their price point will drive many to VB who would otherwise not want to spend the additional money on sites which generate little or no revenue.
To me, VB is the middle point between the free products and Threads. Cheaper, but the code is bloated and having the templates (and images, and basically everything!) in the database is a real PITA. Want to update a template, you cant edit a file - you have to use their web browser interface to update a database variable which then uses str_replaces to populate its template. A world of difference from the Threads implementation.
So, in the end InfoPop has decided to focus on the "serious" customer and let VB and the others have the low/middle end. Kind of like a car dealer that only builds high end models.
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Exactly. If everyone was given the choice.... they'd drive the Lexus - but some have to drive Toyotas.
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Yeah, those poor people don't know what they are missing. Unfortunately I know what I'm missing and I really need another license. =/
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[]extremebikini said:
After much reflection, I see the trend for InfoPop is a more "serious" customer. Their price point will drive many to VB who would otherwise not want to spend the additional money on sites which generate little or no revenue.
To me, VB is the middle point between the free products and Threads. Cheaper, but the code is bloated and having the templates (and images, and basically everything!) in the database is a real PITA. Want to update a template, you cant edit a file - you have to use their web browser interface to update a database variable which then uses str_replaces to populate its template. A world of difference from the Threads implementation.
So, in the end InfoPop has decided to focus on the "serious" customer and let VB and the others have the low/middle end. Kind of like a car dealer that only builds high end models. [/]
But what about UBB.classic? UBB.classic costs more than vBulletin, but as stated earlier, the top choice people make from switching UBB.classic to a PHP/MySQL solution is vBulletin.
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Well... people Love Classic.... because it's been around a long time.
They don't "love" Theads by default, because it is different. So I guess that makes people ready to explore totally different options.
Most people only upload to Threads from Classic because their sites grew and classic could no longer handle it.
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I own both products so I will answer this one. I owned classic and when I switched I bought Threads. My users where at first dissapointed but got use to the differences. I also bought VB but as extremebikini said the database being hogged with templates etc I found completely foolish. I found the product to be very kludgy next to Threads so I made a decision to stick to Threads and to this day own both products but VB has never made it out of test site phase. I would rather hack in any features that my users or I might want.
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[] Jeremy said:vbulletin has been just hacked and added features upon the already messy code.. sure, it has a lot of crap in it, but most of it people either don't use, or it just causes the software to be a bit slower. How long have we been hearing about vb 3.0? Over a year? Longer? If you look at the current beta, it is essentially basic VB with some minor enhancements, but mostly just the implimentation of hacks that people created to make it even more bulky. [/] You seem full of anxiety...or is it depression?
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Dallas, Hmm you talk like a VB spy and your first one and only post shows it.  Jeremy is entitled to his opinion. Being a VB owner as well as a Threads owner I concur with his opinion. VB is a very sloppy coded and slow product.
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[] Dallas said:[] Jeremy said:vbulletin has been just hacked and added features upon the already messy code.. sure, it has a lot of crap in it, but most of it people either don't use, or it just causes the software to be a bit slower. How long have we been hearing about vb 3.0? Over a year? Longer? If you look at the current beta, it is essentially basic VB with some minor enhancements, but mostly just the implimentation of hacks that people created to make it even more bulky. [/] You seem full of anxiety...or is it depression? [/] There are dozens of vb spies here, it is nothing new And it is not anxiety or depression, as I own a VB license (and have owned others in the past) and also own a threads license... I run both instances of the software currently and am very familiar with both platforms. So, my opinion is backed by real testing and experience
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Hi,
"My users where at first dissapointed but got use to the differences."
Same thing for me.
I was on Delphi first, and people did not like the (forced) move to UBB.classic. They, however, soon came to like it.
A year later we upgraded to UBB.threads and again there were complaints for a few weeks. Once people got used to the new board though those complaints turned to praise.
I think it all comes down to the fact that most people dislike change.
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[] Omegatron said:Dallas, Hmm you talk like a VB spy and your first one and only post shows it. Jeremy is entitled to his opinion. Being a VB owner as well as a Threads owner I concur with his opinion. VB is a very sloppy coded and slow product. [/] You make a lot of assumptions don't you? 
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He only made one assumption... that you are some sort of 'vb spy'... prove differently
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[] ksanuk said:I think it all comes down to the fact that most people dislike change. [/] Agreed
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On a site that I am admin for we went from classic to threads and for two weeks nothing but complaining, now they love it.
I own 3 threads licenses and am about to buy 10 more. I have currently two sites hooked up to one database and will be hooking all of them up soon.
Threads is freaking awesome and I wouldn't have it any other way.
I've looked EXTENSIVELY at all the other products and by far, threads was the best. Cost was however, not an issue for me. I am completely unbiased and honestly can't even see the comparison....
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Agreed - users hate change. They will complain for a while. They eventually get used to it and move on.
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I think there might be some confusiong for classic users in looking at Threads as an "upgrade". It really isn't an upgrade so much as an offer to change your license to a different product.
An upgrade suggests that the product was improved over the last version; not a whole different product with a different feature set.
"Upgrade" can be confusing, especially across cultures or languages.
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Yeah, very true. Alot of classic users are surprised that this is not classic - just because it bears the Infopop logo. Otherwise they'd call it ClassicPlus or ClassicPro etc...
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Didn't CocaCola go this route? 
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Do you mean New Coke/Coke II? That was a big failure, because Coke fans preferred the old taste of Coke. New Coke/Coke II tasted more like Pepsi.
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I prefer Coca Cola Classic. But I sometimes have that problem Allen does, where it sprays me a bit when I open it. Coke > Pepsi UBB.Threads > VB
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Martini > *.*
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I love Chocolate Martini's - have you ever had a Chocolate Martini?
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Josh always knows how to take an off-topic post and run with it! Oh yeah, I'm a Glenfiddich man myself.  Do you use Creme de Cacao for a Choco Martini? I have clear stuff at home. I also have dry vermouth, some Grey Goose, and gin. Am I set??
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LOL - Yeah, we ought to have an "adminish" type figure to keep topics online. I honestly have never made one for myself.... I usually get them out. But here's the recipe. It's pretty much pure alcohol. http://www.webtender.com/db/drink/1331And kids - don't drink and drive.
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Only two ingredients, I think I could even make that one.
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The worse things about Coke (and all drinks in cans) - is when a moustache grows a bit too long, and a stray hair gets caught on the key-pull - and you move the can away from your mouth - it hurts!!!! Brings tears to the eyes.  Sould be a warning on the can - do you reckon I can sue the manufacturers, for not warning me LOL
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Write a letter to them about it, and see if it they start printing a warning on the can.  P.S. Enclose a picture of you being carried on a stretcher with a bandage over your mouth.
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All right, lets get back on track now.
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LOL Can I represent you in the lawsuit.
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Doah  Pink cracks the whip on our New Coke Classic conversation.
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Sorry Pink  Will go an write out 100 times 'Must not contribute to taking a thread of Pink's off track'
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As for the future of threads, I think threads should have a little martini graemlin by default (shameful attempt to keep something on topic) But as a last post for the martini folks here, the best is an apple martini! One shot of skyy vodka, one shot of apple pucker. Shake briskly, strain into a chilled martini glass. Add a small lemon slice for decoration
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OOh. We also need a graemlin with Chocolate on his face - for me.
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Where are all the Natural Light and Jim Beam drinkers? Am I the only poster with hair on his chest?
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10oz cans of Busch Light!!!
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[] shortbus said:Where are all the Natural Light and Jim Beam drinkers? Am I the only poster with hair on his chest? [/] haha.. I used to go through a few cases of brews a week, and used to love whiskey. But... I think age is catching up to me as the beer was settling in my waist area and the whiskey was losing it's effect
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[] shortbus said:Where are all the Natural Light and Jim Beam drinkers? Am I the only poster with hair on his chest? [/] LOL I really don't like Beer. Smirnoff is good though.
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Smirnoff Ice? I have some in my fridge at home, along with some MGD. But my fave beer is a German brand called Hacker-Pschorr. I think that's how you spell it. Speaking of Smirnoff, Grey Goose is THE vodka to drink, even if it is French.
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Grey Goose is very good vodka. You can drink it on the rocks and it is very smooth and dry.
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Listen to shortbus!!! He knows his liquor!!!
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Woah!  Pink, this thread is outta control. Now the VB spy is going to return and report that we are a bunch of crazy drunks over here. LOL
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Hey! You leave my mother outta this!!! I'm sorry. I love you man!!!! I do my best coding when drunk! 
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I love you man!!!!! LOL 
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I had a bahama mama with my dinner at Applebees.
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Her name was.... err.... never mind - it was a drink.
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[] JoshPet said:Woah! Pink, this thread is outta control. Now the VB spy is going to return and report that we are a bunch of crazy drunks over here. LOL [/] It wasn't me - Mr VB Spy - I am the sane one from England - unlike those crazy yanks
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You really are a foo-foo drink drinker aren't ya? If I don't breath fire after I finish a drink then it's no good Actually, these days I'm good with a bottle of Cognac
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Yes - Pina Coladas are my favorite. Wine coolers too. <ducks to hide from the laughter at foo-foo drinkers>
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Don't be ashamed man! My name is Josh, and I also enjoy foo-foo drinks. My favorite being Mei Tai! Did I spell that right????
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Give me a Becks Dark. I like a beer that drinks like a meal.  Kamakazis(sp) are also nice.
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Could you please answer this question for me?
What do you think CNet would rate higher if they reviewed messageboards, UBB.threads or vBulletin?
I know for sure vBulletin would get better user reviews, but what about a professional review from somebody like Stephen Bigelow? Maybe he may realize that UBB.threads is superior in archietechture.
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an unbiased review may be good... but it may be best to wait for 6.4. But as long as the review took into account ALL issues of the software (speed, ease of use, administration, and other technical issues) rather than just having a bunch of kids use each version and say which one is better.. it could work.
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[] I know for sure vBulletin would get better user reviews, [/]
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Sorry Pink - Slap me with a rubber hose. I think user rated would be VB - because people see the bells and whistles and it excites them. Some people recognize superior "construction" and the speed and reliability that can bring. If you've ever seen the Screen Savers on Tech TV - recently they did a show with Scott from Photopost about online communities. Leo Laporte said that "VB was for a younger crowd, who wanted lots of avatars and Icons etc.." Just the other day on his message board he said []My philosophy with the boards, as with all of leoville, is simplicity and functionality. That's one of the reasons I chose UBB over vBulletin, say. Adding a bunch of doohickeys just complicates the UI and slows everybody down. I like programs that do one thing well. [/] So while the majority of lemmings go for bells and whistles - the smarter folks go for speed and reliability. For those of us that have started with a solid foundation - wait til you see the 6.4 changelog. We won't be disappointed with UBB.Threads.
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[]wait til you see the 6.4 changelog[/] OK, I'll bite, I know a calendar setup will be in 6.4 but what else? Come on I know you know, start talking. 
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I'm not permitted to. I signed a contract in which, if I talk. Navaho comes into my house and steals my refridgerator. But Rick has posted here about a few things. Calendar being one of them. The changelog will be posted just as soon as 6.3 is final. Next question: No, I don't know when that'll be.
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Well, I'm not under contract, so I guess I can tell what I know. I managed to happen upon a version of 6.4. The Extra information at the bottom is laid-out a bit differently. The Who's Online and User List links are down there, as well as Mark All Read and FAQ. There is a link in the navbar at the top for the Calendar. That's all I know though. And who knows if this'll still be accurate by the time it becomes gold.
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Now you really didn't think I'd leave the real snapshot of 6.4 somewhere so easy to find do you? Gotta love decoys
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Covering your tracks now? LOL. No worries mate. Next time leave a more interesting screenie though!
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Let me tall ya the story of that image. Rick: Hey Dave, what do you think about this idea? Dave (looks at picture): Weeeeeeeellllllllll, nah. How bout we get Judd to mess with it? (Judd sends photoshop image idea) Dave: How bout that? Rick: Wasn't what I was thinking, hmm, how bout this other one? Dave (looks): Err, just code something, we'll figure out what it looks like later. So the picture you saw never made it past photoshopped concept image number#2. Sorry to be the spoil sport, but honestly, that's what you found.
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[] JoshPet said:Woah! Pink, this thread is outta control. Now the VB spy is going to return and report that we are a bunch of crazy drunks over here. LOL [/] Oh, you’re so funny! That’s hilarious! Let me tell you all something, I'm a Infopop Customer, my license number is: UBB.classic License License Number 2001060905-DON-7U:001I came here to transfer my current license to UBB.Threads, but hey, thanks to all of you, I'm not going to transfer it nor renew it, so much for customer service huh? You just lost another customer, how's that feel? Bye all.
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You're speaking to us like we're Infopop. Newsflash! Thanks for playin'. You may pick up your consolation prize at the door.
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Just some food for thought. Everyone has a right to an oppinion of their own. Websites based around a specific product, be it official or unofficial (as here) will have a group of users that are "for" that product. Your first two posts made it seem as if you were "for" VB. If you had simply posted a "hello", I'm looking into purchasing a .threads license but have been thinking about VB, what do you guys think? I beleive you would have been better recieved. I'm sure this whole situation takes place on other sites like a chevy truck site that has a ford owner join... lol (now lets not even start on this people) So everything should be taken with a grain of salt when heckling of other products gets started. So, let's start over. Welcome to ThreadsDev.com, Dallas. We are a group of .threads users working together to improve our websites and knowledge of php/mysql/html UBB.threads and anything else web related. If you have any questions about these subjects please feel free to post a question in a related board. Thanks.
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Here we go again...
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[] You seem full of anxiety...or is it depression? [/] [] You make a lot of assumptions don't you? [/] Those don't seem like statements that were of any positive contribution, nor anything that required a serious answer on my part. Dude you're way too serious. I was just joking about getting the thread back on track. You sure seemed like a VB spy since you dindn't say anything coherant other than a few cryptic random statements. Customer Service? It's not really my job to give customer service to anyone...except clients of mine. I don't work for Infopop - I'm an infopop license holder just like you. I wish I had a piece of every license sold - but I don't - so you weren't my customer to begin with. If you need customer service from infopop - the official place is www.infopop.com/support. We do not work for infopop and this is a "non infopop site". Any thing I do that appears to be "customer service", be it here or at Infopop ... in my free time.. out of the goodness of my heart just trying to be helpful to people. If you are looking to transition your site from Classic to threads you would take care of your license stuff over at Infopop. This is a site for us users who want to modify our code and do other things with our software. If you are looking for help on that, or even general threads questions - I'll most likely be one of the people to answer them for you either here or at Infopop Community. But that'll just be because I'm "helpful". And you'll probably have to ask more than "You seem full of anxiety...or is it depression?" or "You make a lot of assumptions don't you?" to get a serious answer. If you want to modify your code - welcome to threadsdev. Hope we can help you out.
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[] AllenAyres said:I prefer Dodge [/] Nissan
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I was ready to give up threads for something else but my ISP insisted I keep UBBthreads or pay a lot more for hosting
So in my case: the low cost option was UBBthreads :-)And I have saved many thousands thanks to it since I decided to keep it...
Then I started to visit ubbdev.com, learned a bit about modifications, found JoshPet who started to help me with installations and mods, and started to like threads a lot... to the point that I do not even consider other options at this time
But for most people, without any intention, (or time) to ad mods, I see a real problem when board members start asking for features they see at other boards
At this point I see that there are more modification than I could ever want and think threads has a great future
If infopop where to incorporate all the mods avaialble here it would be fantastic...
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[] janedoe said:Then I started to visit ubbdev.com, learned a bit about modifications, found JoshPet who started to help me with installations and mods, and started to like threads a lot... to the point that I do not even consider other options at this time [/] Glad I helped keep you hooked on Threads. I'm betting you will like 6.4. Changelog coming soon!
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I'm dying to see the 6.4 changelog, I can't sleep at night knowing I am missing out 
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As soon as we get 6.3 stable and out the door I'll get it posted At this point it has 44 entries
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But 43 of them are connected with banning of bananas
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[]but remember, these products have been around for much longer than threads, and threads is new and has been essentially re-written from the ground up to provide the best performance [/]
Threads was converted from perl to php. The last time I looked at any of the code there was still a lot of the old perl functions still there, but, converted to php. So it wasn't rewritten from the ground up.
I run both vb and threads and currently run vb3 beta on a forum that has 400 online most of the time with the exception of weekends. Hovers around 200 then.
I converted to vb on that site because threads couldn't scale. As it turns out this was more a fault with mysql then threads although there is still a problem with threads db layer that causes various tables to corrupt when using mysql 4. This doesn't happen with vb.
VB2 code is convoluted and messy. VB3 code is a total rewrite and very impressive. Can't say more because I am bound by NDA. Once released VB3 will make a huge impact.
There are some quirks in threads when running it on Windows that I have not seen in VB.
The corrupt table problem from above.
When editing the config file from the cp and saving you lose all the linebreaks and the forum dies until you open it in an editor and reformat the text. This is because there is no allowance in the code for /r/n. All linebreaks are /n.
When editing templates from the cp everything gets double and triple spaced after you save it.
Shutting off the referer check brings the forum to its knees. Pages won't load or take 10+ seconds to load.
These are minor annoyances, but, if you want threads to be portable across multiple platforms they should be fixed.
I like both products. They both have strengths and weaknesses. From what I see Rick is continuelly adding to his original perl code, but, never completely getting rid of it all. A ground up rewrite would seem to be in order. Finish and release 6.4 and then put a hold on development of that branch, other than bugfixes, and do a total rewrite. Users might have to wait for the next version, VB3 has been in development for 1 1/2 years, but, the end result is a new, more efficient product without the old converted perl functions. Somewhere along the way a rewrite is in order for any software.
BTW, all the fluff of VB can be turned off.
This is in no way a bash on threads and I am not a vbspy. I have been a loyal user of threads since the 3.0 perl days. I was probably one of the first to run the early php version on a high traffic site. It is a fine product, but, to build on the current code much longer will prove to be a bad mistake.
The competitions code is becoming modular and more efficient.
IMO the best forum software package out right now is a free product. Modular code making it easy to add hacks via plugins and a standard api. The old argument that a free product can't be as good as one you pay for is going out the window.
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Overall though, I still think UBB.threads is better written, faster, and more secure. Also, UBB.threads has the advantage in interface, becuase vBulletin's interface is cluttered. vBulletin 3 also has a useless "similar thrads" box at the bottom of the threads, which some of the threads shown there are not similar at all.
Rick, in about how many weeks will version 6.3 be released?
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Overall though, I still think UBB.threads is better written, faster, and more secure. Also, UBB.threads has the advantage in interface, becuase vBulletin's interface is cluttered. vBulletin 3 also has a useless "similar thrads" box at the bottom of the threads, which some of the threads shown there are not similar at all.
Rick, in about how many weeks will version 6.3 be released? [/]
I disagree. Threads code is getting messy and is far from what it used to be. You can't keep adding features without losing efficiency. All software at some point has to modularized or you get bloat. Bloated code is slower to compile and execute.
If you want to see tight modular code take a look at IBforums. With the structured api features can be added as plugins without adding bloat. In the future threads and vb will just be an after thought as wwwboard is now. One thing vb has going for it is they see the light and are doing something to stay competetive.
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To each there own. I do see so much effort put into quality code and preservation of speed and such. While every line of code may not have been rewritten... so much the way it all functions has been changed, particularly with 6.2. Being on the beta/development team - I really see how Rick really struggles with making sure that everything added to threads does not comprimise the speed or stability of things. Anytime I have to "track something down" to make an adjustment etc.... I really find the threads code easier to follow and cleaner than most of the other stuff I deal with. But it really is still an infant compared to other software packages... .just getting warmed up. But the biz is a never ending process of new server software, new configurations and new options - so it's continually evolving. I really believe it'll only get better from here.
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Just a couple of quick points on this. Though the php version was a convert from the perl version, very little remains from the original port. The last couple of versions have been extensively rewritten already. Not from the ground up, but quite a change nonetheless. Definitely more to be done though. As for code bloat. This isn't really that much of a factor since most everything is handled by it's own script. Obviously the code does grow abit but I don't try to do a ton of different things in the smallest number of scripts possible like alot of software I've seen. The php version has been around for a couple of years now. In that time here's the growth of some of the main scripts since 5.4. ubbt.inc.php has gone from 58k to 70k ubbthreads.php has gone from 13k to 18k postlist.php has gone from 37k to 39k showflat.php has gone from 35k to 38k showthreaded.php has gone from 38k to 40k Anywho, yeah, there is a ton of room for improvement and we'll keep up and do whatever is necessary be it a total rewrite or whatever. Been doing this for almost 6 years now and I've never been one to look to the competition for how good the software is or what we should be doing next and we've done ok so far
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Yeah, you are doing great. I've been using the software since 1998 I believe and never regretted it a second. I do look at other systems as well from time to time, since some sites have different needs, but I still think threads is the best, as a sysadmin, forum owner, a user and as a coder.
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I agree. Threads is an awsome piece of software. Someone had complained about it not being moduluar enough. It looks to me like threads is already very modulaur by design and that as it grows it will become more so. We use our license as a file system as well as a message board system. One of the great things about threads is the community behind. Someone is always ready to answer questions, sometimes even if it is just to say that they don't know. With out this site or installation would have been vanillia with me up all night every night teaching myself php and ubb code. But thanks to the love that the user community has for threads there are constantly people looking to make it even better and help it grow. Thanks Rick for a great piece of software and thanks Threadsdev for being such a warm and welcoming community. I practically live here. 
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Would I have achieved so much intergration with VB - I doubt it. Threads is the centre of my site, even when people are using major non threads parts of the software - as they still retain threads features even when using other software. I suppose my only suggestion to all this, would be for all thread variables & classes to be called something very unique so that no clashing will occur Yes threads has bloated - but this has nothing to do with threads - it is all down to the loads of extra scripts that threads allows me to intergrate with it
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I still prefer a Dodge... that is, unless you are giving me a mazerati
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ok, I change my vote to pizza too, I didn't know we could vote on food.
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Gellato! Didn't know we could vote for food either.
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SEAFOOD!
Lobster, crab, Lobster, clams, Loster, shrimp, Lobster, scallops, Lobster... Did I mention Lobster?
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[]Scream said:
SEAFOOD!
Lobster, crab, Lobster, clams, Loster, shrimp, Lobster, scallops, Lobster... Did I mention Lobster? [/]
Yuck
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I don't eat any seafood. If it swims.... I don't eat it. (cows and chickens don't swim... or don't swim well anyway. )
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Typical - Pink goes off a for a few days, and the thread goes off topic - he will not be happy
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Don't your chips ahoy cookies swim in a glass of milk? Seafood is the bomb baby! My favorite dinner is going to the outback and getting the alaskan king crab dinner and a side dish of crab Or some nice juicy lobster tails with melted butter. I can eat either of those until I'm ready to burst. I've eaten over 3 lbs of crab meat at one sitting and still tried to force myself to eat more cuz it was sooooo good!!!
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Hmmmm, I choose to drive a pizza and everyone starts talking about food. Hmmmm. Lobster claws are my favourite part. The tails are good, but I prefer the texture of the claws. No one can eat politely when it comes to a whole lobster.
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Ugh! We need Pink to put us back on track.
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LOL Rick - you like going to Outback (a steakhouse) for Seafood and I love going to Red Lobster ( a Lobster place) to get a steak. LOL
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Red Lobster makes the best Bahama Mamas.
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OH MAN!!! Who is talking about seafood? I grew up on seafood.. when my mom was pregnant with me, she ate at red lobster a few times a week. When I was just a wee lil guy, they took me to red lobster almost every week, now.. I'm all grown up and dirt poor, so I only get to red lobster once every month or two. But man oh man, seafood is the bomb. Whether it be fish, shrimp, scallops, crab, lobster, clams... man, I love it The best is going out east south and finding "real" seafood places, where the food is always fresh, and a lot cheaper than up here in the midwest. One time, at red lobster when they had "Crabby Monday's" which was all you can eat crab, I ate over 7 pounds worth of crab Granted a lot of that weight is the shell, but still, most full meals only come with 1 lb. or sometimes 1.5 lbs
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heheh We have some cajun seafood places around here... you'll gain some serious weight eating around here
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I prefer going down to our local cockle sheds, and buying seafood, that has almost just come out of the sea - nice and fresh
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Yes, our better restaurants sit right over the water (I live ~30 miles from the Gulf of Mexico) :slurp:
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[] AllenAyres said:Yes, our better restaurants sit right over the water (I live ~30 miles from the Gulf of Mexico) :slurp: [/] You should invite me down for some good seafood Haven't been to texas in years
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Summer Picnic at Allens
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When I was a kid living on an island off of Cape Cod we only ate fish we caught or knew who caught it and when they caught it. I rarely am willing to eat fish that's been out of the water more than an hour anymore.
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hehe... come on down We used to spend summers with my grandparents fishing off piers in the gulf of mex.
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I don't like Seafood Allen. But I'm coming down to see you to get some good Texas Longhorn Steaks.
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we've got some good steaks too
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It won't get back on track until Pink get's back from Puerto Rico and steers the thing back on topic. I'm too much of a goof ball to put on the Admin hat and do it myself.  Allen - get the hammer.
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Did you see the ode to Josh in "THE LONGEST THREAD" at infopo?
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Anyone want to help us move today? We got a good portion of our small stuff boxed up and moved over, but my back is killing me, and today we start some of the bigger items Also, the cable company hasn't called and notified me about transfering our TV/internet to the new apartment, grrrr... there better be cable at the new place tonight or someone is in trouble.
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I'd help, but Michigan is a little far for a weekend drive...
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Well, i don't think there is anything more to discuss. And I leave to Puerto Rico on Tuesday
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Hold on - I will see they will divert Concorde from JFK to Michigan
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That seems a little out of the way.
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I'd rather go to Puerto Rico with Pink - sounds like much more fun than moving. There's always more to disucss - For example - I don't know what Allen had for dinner today.
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I had a nice Italian dinner with a friend of mine. Something called mezzaluna... tasted good tho - Delicate half moon ravioli stuffed with chicken, ricotta and spinach in a tomato cream sauce.
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Hey! I went there Thursday night with my friend. My real estate broker sent me $50 in gift certificates after getting thousands in commission on the sale of my house - which I ended up bringing the buyer. My favorite there is Chicken Gratella - and the bread - I ate a basket and a half of bread.
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The bread is very good :slurp: My favorite there is: Pollo Rosa Maria Fire-roasted chicken breast stuffed with fontina cheese and prosciutto, topped with mushrooms and a basil lemon butter sauce Add a side of garlic mashed potatos
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Garlic Mashed potatos are my FAVORITE!
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[] slayer60 said:Did you see the ode to Josh in "THE LONGEST THREAD" at infopo? [/] I hadn't read that thread - but did go check it out. The TSBBers are so active that I no longer can read everything there - but do search for my name every other day or so - so I can tell if they are talking to me. LOL Thanks for the tip.
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Has Pink gone yet - or is he back?
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I think he leaves very soon - and is gone for about a month. This thread will be way off topic if he's gone for a month.
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Should reach the 1,000 replies by then!
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