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I've been doing some reading recently on the Zend Framework . I imagine it will be the default in a year or so as the framework matures and more hosts move to php5. I've found a nice tutorial on IBM's site: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-php-zend1/index.htmlIt's in 9 parts (the first 5 are online so far) and it goes through the basics of setting up a zend framework environment all the way through the MVC model (Model View Controller), and building an example app. For those who want to learn what's coming in the next few years, some time spent on the zend framework won't be wasted 
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Cool. Looks like an interesting read. Something to do at work today.
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I swear I posted something on this a few months ago. Maybe I'm losing it. I'm hoping to do a PHP + i5/OS + Zend Framework and impress the new company. Finally, I'll get a chance to put my ZCE to use
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I remember you posting a link to a video on the beta site a few months back I'd like to see your app when you get some work done on it - I am considering something similar soon, except it will be zend framework/pdo/smarty - I'll be looking for beta testers, so everyone update to php5+ please
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I took a brief look at Zend Framework a few weeks ago, for a project I need to implement for a friend. It is not production ready yet (it even stated that in a few places, one of whcih may have been at the zend framework site itself) so for now I cannot use it. I've been taking a look at Symfony and so far am impressed by what I see. But, I haven't done any real development in it yet, and I'm a little concerned about some of the database pieces (using Propel) and how joins will work with lookup tables. When I get some time to actually try it, I'll post my findings.
"Annnnnnnndd now, opening for Iron Maiden...... WYLD STALLYNS!!!" --Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted "Theodore " Logan
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please do so www.cakephp.org is supposed to be a good one, tho I think zend may be more forward-looking. I imagine it will be winter before it starts to really take hold
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Cake is another popular one, and I did look briefly at it, just by reading through their docs. It looked decent, but something struck me as being a little 'messy' though i couldn't put my finger on it.
Also, I hear performance could be a little lacking with Cake, but I can't substantiate that, and where I got it from. Symfony has some issues too, because of Propel, but that's being worked on (AFAIK).
Zend will probably be very good. The problem is, I'll bet it's at least a year until it's stable enough to be used in production. Symfony is not at 1.0 either, but it's currently far more mature and complete, and has gotten some rave reviews (though there sure are a lot of YAML files for configuration...).
"Annnnnnnndd now, opening for Iron Maiden...... WYLD STALLYNS!!!" --Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted "Theodore " Logan
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Yeah, you may be right about zend. They are a month or so behind on their roadmap to version one: http://framework.zend.com/issues/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?id=10000&subset=-1 - right now they're at 27 of 76 issues fixed for version 0.2 I think it'll still be ready to cook by winter tho - what's gonna drag is web hosts moving to php5+, it's only been out a year or so
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what's gonna drag is web hosts moving to php5+, it's only been out a year or so Longer than that: Version 5.0.0 13-Jul-2004 It's over 2 years already. Hosts are REALLY dragging their feet on upgrading to php5. A lot are dragging on going to MySQL 5 too, and that's been out 2 years or so as well (5.1 is in beta now)
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They need a big push from consumers who want/need php5. hhmmm...
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A lot of webhosts utilize what is listed as *stable* their their control panel providers (and actually download the builds from them as well).
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True, but most web hosts haven't updated that software in ages  I know php5 works on the current versions of plesk and cpanel, it's a matter of rewarding those who stay current (with more business) and punishing those who keep passing the old crap off to us with less business. 2 years is a long time to not update
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Here's a more basic tutorial for those who'd like to start from the beginning: "The Zend Framework provides clean, stable code, complete with -- and perhaps most importantly -- clean intellectual property rights. PHP is gaining ground in the enterprise space, but if you're a Fortune 500 company, you don't want to take a chance on a module submitted to a repository that may or may not be some other company's intellectual property. What is Zend Framework, exactly? The Zend Framework: - Is based on PHP.
- Is object-oriented.
- Uses the MVC paradigm.
- Has open source contributors.
- Has contributors who take responsibility for the fact that their code is not the intellectual property of someone else.
" Understanding the Zend Framework
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Well... the progress is of glacial speed, but they're making progress: http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel 48 of 116 issues have been resolved so far for version 0.2 and they've added lots of functionality: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFDEV/Home
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57 of 134 issues have been resolved  Noticed they've moved the release date for 0.2.0 to October 31, 2006 - I'm guessing they are planning an actual release and have a big bugfix push coming in the next couple weeks.
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Version 0.2.0 has been released: http://framework.zend.com/downloadLOTS of functionality and bugfixes included 
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Zend Framework Preview 0.7.0 January 18, 2007 The Zend Framework community has released the 0.7.0 Preview Release. This release showcases the latest developed classes to support Localization (L10N) and Internationalization (I18N). This makes it easy to develop world-class PHP applications. More details: - Locale-management component
- Locale-aware Date parsing and formatting class
- New translation-management component with gettext support
- Comprehensive class for working with measurements and conversions
- New prototype class for filtering and validation parameters
- New class for managing memory usage in PHP applications
- Many other improvements in current components such as MVC, Session, Gdata, HTTP Client, Search, XmlRpc, and others
- Many other enhancements to test suites and documentation.
Download Zend Framework Preview 0.7.0! The changelog highlights the most significant changes to the Zend Framework. They've also released version .7 of their Zend Google Data Client - a set of classes that enable PHP 5 applications to run queries and commands using the Google Data API. Looks pretty good
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RC1 has been released and they're at 6 of 6 issues are already fixed in RC2 http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF?report=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.project:roadmap-panel Lots of issues fixed in the last few months.
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Version 1.0 has been released today http://devzone.zend.com/article/2262-Zend-Framework-1.0.0-production-releaseI am very proud to announce availability of the first production release of Zend Framework. Many thanks to the scores of PHP developers who have worked for many months to make this product milestone possible. Zend Framework has followed a mission to provide classes that are extremely simple, yet powerful and extensible. Zend Framework is now the best class library available for PHP 5 web application development. The Zend Framework project has developed solutions to solve frequent needs of web application developers, including the following areas: - Powerful MVC framework
- Database access solution that balances ORM with efficiency and simplicity
- Lucene-compatible search engine
- Advanced I18N support
- Robust authentication/authorization classes and input filtering
- Rich web services client interfaces, including Google Data APIs and StrikeIron
- Many other useful classes to make you as productive as possible
- Thorough and high-quality test suites and documentation
- Open-source development process with an active community provides continuous review and testing
The Zend Framework is the best PHP 5 framework to meet modern business needs, being licensed under the New BSD license. The Contributor License Agreement assures that all code has been provided freely. Zend Framework is already in use in dozens of applications, so it is proven to be production-ready.
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I found a decent forum the developers hang out at: http://www.nabble.com/Zend-Framework-f15440.htmlThe forum script itself kinda reminds me of Matt Wright's work, but the info is good
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holy moley. you are right Allen. you just killed my weekend now, because i started reading one article and it branched out into 2 other places i need to read.
and another .js API that looks sweet..
goodbye Saturday and Sunday!!
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Zend released version 1.5 recently, lots of new stuff and improvements on the older stuff: - Support for OpenID and Microsoft's InfoCard - two emerging technologies behind "Identity 2.0," a movement to simplify and fortify identity management online
- Forms - New support for forms, including Ajax usage patterns that makes building and using web-based forms much easier
- Layout and view - New layout support and view enhancements for consistent look and feel throughout PHP applications
- LDAP authentication - Now with enterprise-ready authentication using LDAP technology
- Lucene search engine - New advanced queries using wildcards, date ranges, fuzzy searches as well as Lucene index format version 2.1
- Extended Ajax support - Server-side support for Ajax with action helpers to automate Ajax detection and responses makes programming using JavaScript & PHP much easier
- UTF-8 character sets in Adobe PDF creation - PDF support enhanced to enable non-Latin character sets such as Kanji, Cyrillic, etc.
- Google GData web services - Significant enhancements to Google Data services makes it easier to build web applications that leverage the Google application network. New support for upload and write capabilities to Google YouTube
http://framework.zend.com
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