thanks for the responce guys, who better to answe me, than you 2
well i am using UBB 6.104
also using the new multihack prog from troy's site
the hacks themselves are from here ubbdev, multihack 2.0's
I did have some success last night, i installed the smilie hack, though i then uninstalled it, as it made the "hot-clickable" smillies too small to see (but nice hack anyway, just not for me)
cheers
matt