UBB.Developers Forums General Discussion Chit Chat UBB Version 6 Revealed

Scriptkeeper went through a "few" changes today, upgrading to version 6 beta 5, and as promised, Ted spoke about the changes and new features that will be coming with the pending release Jan 31.

click here

You might want to change your bookmarks for SK as well, it is now:
http://www.scriptkeeper.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

They are going to be working through the bugs, getting ready for public release, so please be patient as IP brings a revolutionary change to the UBB line of forum software.

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

Oh my, I can wait!! Those are some pretty spectacular changes! I wish I would have know this before I sold my license

/me shakes her piggy bank

Guess I better start saving

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Samantha

Looks pretty good, but it won't be any fun without some modifications and they might not be around for a few weeks at least. Oh well, it still looks cool.

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http://www.zeldaglitches.com

Damn! Thats not very impressive.
On Infopop I see its UBB 6 beta5 now. I can see all the Forums but when I click on a Forum (any forum) I get a message you are not Authorized to view this Forum.
I thought maybe they have it setup where one must login. So I logged in and still no go. Maybe they made all the Forums Private for now .
I donno if its a bug. Maybe someone should ask them "Did you chmod the files?" "Did you upload them in ASCI?" .

I hope they have it up soon, I am real excited to move on to UBB6.

This message has been edited by NightSong on January 19, 2001 at 08:13 PM

ubb version 6 beta 5 is really nice, but i am wondering, if upgrading works, because of the member files. i have installed in my board the custom user text mod, which writes some extra lines in the members .cgi files. aren't there any "hack attempts" if the number of the member fields aren't right?



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greetz
h4p3
OC Austria | www.overclockers.at

You are right dude... Ya what happens then?

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hm i don't know, therefore i asked. i am not a beta tester of ubb, but i only wanted to know if i can upgrade my ubb 5.47 when i have the custom user text installed (because of the extra fields in the member files).



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greetz
h4p3
OC Austria | www.overclockers.at

NightSong One of the new features is that you got to login to view the forums

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"In every man there is evil. But the question is what is true evil?"
- @DemonBob@ the original Malo hombre

We are looking at the problem with member profile fields right now... might be a fairly simple modification, not sure yet.

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

thx Allen, if you have the answer plz post it here =)

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greetz
h4p3
OC Austria | www.overclockers.at

This message has been edited by h4p3 on January 21, 2001 at 03:22 AM

I believe we may have it tomorrow, Atom911 and JohnM are working on it now...

You should see what v6 does to our member profiles here... Everybody's custom user text is displayed as their "publically displayed name"

Some are pretty funny, to say the least.

BTW, went from 15 profile fields as standard to something like 32... a big jump for sure, but you will soon see what they are for, very useful.

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

Allen, 'wheeeee!' and 'it's coming...' are my two favorite usernames on the beta board

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parallel parking job
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Let me give you all a piece of advice or two about member fields.

Let's start with some known facts.

There was no standardization amoung extra fields hacked into your boards. Obviously, eh?

UBB6 comes with many new fields, including the AIM field and 4 optional fields that you can configure.

UBB6 does not take into account any of your hacks or extra fields. As reported if they are not overwritten they sure will appear funny.

Based on the above facts it seems to me the brightest idea would be for UBBdev and it's patrons to all get their heads together and do the following:

Come up with a base map of the new members data.
Come up with a plan for standardization of future hacks. Be ready ahead of time. Have a facility so someone can reserve a field number for the hack they are writing. Everyone uses only the field that is reserved for their hack(if their hack even needs a members field, most don't). Become a clearing hourse of sorts. Assign fields on first come first served. Of course no hacker anywhere will ever be indebted or required to check in, sign up and be assigned a field, but think how smart it would be for anyone doing a hack to do so. Going this route would get any hacker exposure, wouldn't it? And less headaches down the road? In return, UBBDev would gain exposure too. Make an agreement of sorts that anyone signing on and being assigned a field would have to allow you to distribute their hacks(but not exclusively perhaps?). Suggestion also... leave some room for future Infopop growth so you don't have to do this again


Next come up with a script that would be used before upgrading UBB5 to UBB6 that strips and cleans the members data to pristine 5.47d conditions so that the data can be imported cleanly into UBB6 and then any new hacks applied would follow the field guidlines as mentioned above. This script would allow all of these people to have a fresh clean start with no headaches about messed up members data.

Think about it and develope it. This is the best place to discuss it, right here. Your future as a group and as a sucessful website can be broadened significantly if you do this right.

I've been thinking a lot about where this website can go. I'll be making a few suggestions now and then if you don't mind.



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"There is no spoon"

Thank you Navaho for the excellent input. You are always welcome here...

We have begun something like what you are discussing, tho we haven't gotten very far in it yet, lots to do and not a lotta time... several projects keeping us busy, mainly our v6 upgrade in the next week... Profile fields are being mapped out, and we have a couple of projects underway to make use of them, mainly to deal with the changes brought on by v6.

I'll leave detailed discussion of our other project to borg, he has been working on a "centralized modification repository" for several months now, and we are finally giving him the backing to get it done. Basically, it involves utilizing a perl program he is working on to simplify installation of modifications on the ubb without the need for bits and pieces of actual ubb code being distributed. This part is in reference to our earlier email discussions.

Your suggestion for "assigning" profile fields takes it a step further and would probably help a great deal in the future, especially in regards to upgrades to the basic code.

Thanks for stopping by, we are always open to suggestions, especially from someone with your experience in the field. Stay tuned for our update next week, I really think you'll like it.

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

this isnt following the last posts, but im bound to make a "user defined graemlins" already. my users WILL ask me for this.

about the members files, i can do a script that will get all lines from line 16 to the end of the file and create a different backup member file in another directory, with not much of a trouble. ill be posting this here, just in the case someone needs it besides me.

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

I'm already working on the extra memberfields issue. Not having the UBB6 code it's difficult, but I'm hoping to be able to put the AIM field in the right place, and the Custom user text into Custom Field 1.

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JohnM - moderator of server side scripting

done.

http://banco.jogosonline.com.br/ubbmods/fromline16backup.txt

this will backup member files from line 16. just follow the instructions.

the weird thing is that my forum says i have 771 members, but i have only 766 member files. strange...

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

Do you mean line 15? v5 member files only go to line #15 if blank.

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Duke

line 16 is right Duke, perl arrays index count begin at 0.

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 24, 2001 at 12:51 PM

Then shouldn't it be line 14 or 15? User name is 0, allow mass email is 14. If I understand right, profile field #16 is custom user text here, and publically displayed user name in v6.

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Duke

?

yup, and this script will backup all your members custom user texts, and all other lines after this one if they exist. they will begin at $thisline[15] (line 16 of the file).

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

i can't see it. i keep getting a not logged in error. i tryed going to login but i got the erorr again, and i tryed gong to register and that nasty little error popped up.

can someone be nice and paste what the topic says here?

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http://www.fangamesforever.com

CC, are you saying it backs up what? It makes a full backup of your member file(s) and creates new member files with just the essential profile for v5 left (user name to allow mass email)?

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Allen

- http://www.stand318.com

yup

unless you are using one of UBB's default member file lines with a hack, the 15 essential member lines (0-14 if you wish), to put Avatars or whatever, this will do just that. is this too stupid o_O?

Ultra The Vampire, you are seeing this error in my link?

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 24, 2001 at 01:55 PM

That looks good CopyCat, I misunderstood you.

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Duke

k

second script: deletehacklines.pl

This should be used only after the succesfully remove of the hacks that use member file lines from the board.

http://banco.jogosonline.com.br/ubbmods/deletehacklines.txt

Close your forum, download all member files (make backup of them), download this script, change file name to .pl, upload to ubb cgi folder, chmod 755 it, run it from the browser and pray.

I suggest using this by the time you are upgrading your forum to ubb 6. This have been tested using another folder, and this can be set changing the folder at line 56 of the script (create it first). I changed the filename from "fromline16delete.pl" to "deletehacklines.pl" so to not confuse this with the other script.

edit: taking out this note.. "do not use it with ubb 6!"..

[ February 16, 2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]

nevermind, it must have been one of those UBB6 bugs i can view the link perfectly now.

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please visit my site and help it grow big.
http://www.fangamesforever.com

Hey,

Just wondering if anyone has used CC's script yet ?

I need to clean out my avatar line (the only added profile field I have)

This is just what I was after.

Because I don't really want to go thru the laborious process of taking out the avatar mod I was going to run your script just prior to uploading the new UBB6 files upon release, and then the new files would totally wipe out the avatar mod for me.

Would I be correct in thinking this should work fine ?

TotalNewbie

yup

hey i cant comment on this o_O...

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 25, 2001 at 01:01 AM

lol sheesh you're quick

thx

ok
just backup the member files, i think this is important.. and run some tests using a different output folder, just to be sure..

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 25, 2001 at 01:15 AM

Hey CC,

I hope you don't mind this but I just want to clarify what this does exactly....

By changing line 56 to a new directory called Members2 for example....

Running the script would edit out all added profile fields in the members files and then save the editted files to Members2 whilst leaving the original Members directory intact ?

Thx

yup

change this

if( open (FILE,">$MembersPath/$member.cgi") ){

for this

if( open (FILE,">$MembersPath/Members2/$member.cgi") ){

create Members2 inside Members folder first (the folder you have configured to be members folder)

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

Cool sounds perfect

Thanks CC

ok

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

Very nice work, CC.

Just what I've been needing. I'll give this a test the moment I have some free time.



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Visit Alien Soup Forums
http://www.aliensoup.com/cgi-bin/forums/Ultimate.cgi

You are welcome Alien (hey i stole that lastpost image from your site man )

Just adding a note for both scripts. They will print a message in the browser everytime they cant find a member file. This list may be very big if you have a huge member database. To override this, just cut this line from the script you are using

print "couldnt open member $member file. member might have been deleted (by the administrator)
";

By the time the script ends, it will print the total members your forum have (the one shown in Ultimate.cgi), the number of total files created/modified, and the last user number of the database. Apparently theres a bug in my forum, because the number of members is 771, and there were only 766 member files. If something like this happens with you, check the number of member files you have on your member database, im almost sure the number will be equal to the number of created/modified files.

edit: sorry if i couldnt explain better what those scripts did.. i have to work out on my english..

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it's a matter of time and knowledge

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 26, 2001 at 05:53 PM

CC,

Just wanted to let you know that your script works great I've just been testing it on a copy of a backup of my forums which I test on a local apache server, and it worked perfectly

Only thing I found puzzling was that renaming the Members line as mentioned in one of the above posts and created a directory called Members2 didn't make the script copy the newly modified member files go to that dir. Instead copying straight over my original member files.

Though I guess thats because my members directory has to actually be copied and renamed Members2 ? Then in the control panel set Members2 as my members directory ?

Thanks again, that's gonna save me heaps of time just as soon as I get the guts to upgrade to 5.47d then 5.60

TotalNewbie

its not renaming the folder, is creating another one insinde of it, and addind it to the line i told you... .)

do like this: create "backup" folder inside Members folder. then change this

if( open (FILE,">$MembersPath/$member.cgi") ){

for this

if( open (FILE,">$MembersPath/backup/$member.cgi") ){


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sleepless

This message has been edited by CopyCat on January 28, 2001 at 05:00 PM

Hey CC,

I must have got my words muddled up because what you just replied is what I tried but it wasn't working. Strange

TotalNewbie

CC,

Just upgraded to 5.47d and took all hacks out including the avatar profile field which your script took out, and it worked like a dream

Thanks so much for that script I was dreading editting 450+ members files

TotalNewbie

im glad it worked tn

about the problem you had, well i dont know what happened. drop a note if you discover..

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sleepless

worked perfect CC, thx.


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greetz
h4p3
OC Austria | www.overclockers.at

Hey guys just droped in and Ithink Im glad I did Im going to update my board very shortly to ubb 6 knowing Ill loose all my hacks
I HAVE ALOT OF HACKS ON MY BOARD INCLUDING CUSTOM AVATARS AND 3M HACK Which uses profile fields are you saying before I follow Info pops directions for updating from 547a to UBB 6 I need to use the script that is at the top of this page.????????
IN just reading the text in the .pl above it says to remove all hacks first If this is not possible for me to do what do you reccomend...... That is why Im not hesitating to update not even sure what Ive put in or taken out (hacks i mean}

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This message has been edited by speed on January 30, 2001 at 04:48 PM

Hey,

From what I've read u shouldn't install the new version straight over the top of a board that has added extra profile fields.

On my forums I had the avatar hack installed which was the only hack I used that added extra profile fields.

What I did was firstly turned off avatars and updated threads thru cp. Then upgraded from 5.47 to 5.47d to take out ALL my previous hacks and replace those hacked files with fresh 100% UBB written files. Then I ran CCs wonderful script (the one above) to remove all traces of the avatar code in my member files.

From what I've read upgrading whilst having a hacked board could be dangerous.

TotalNewbie

This message has been edited by TotalNewbie on January 30, 2001 at 04:54 PM

I think my profile field number is up to 19 thats bad haaaa. Is there anyway to do a fresh install and still keep all my member records.
You guys are scaring the bejesus out of me

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547A THIS IS A BAD THING HA
This is out of UBB mis.cgi

####$Password = $thisprofile[1];
####### $Email = $thisprofile[2];
####### $URL = $thisprofile[3];
###### $Occupation = $thisprofile[5];
####### $Location = $thisprofile[6];
##### $Interests = $thisprofile[9];
###### $Status = $thisprofile[8];
####### $TotalPosts = $thisprofile[7];
####### $Permissions = $thisprofile[4];
###### $DateRegistered = $thisprofile[10];
####### $EmailView = $thisprofile[11];
###### $Signature = $thisprofile[12];
####### $ICQnumber = $thisprofile[13];
###### $AllowMassMail = $thisprofile[14];
###### $AIMname = $thisprofile[15];
##### $YahID = $thisprofile[16];
#### $Avatar = $thisprofile[17];
######


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This message has been edited by speed on January 30, 2001 at 05:23 PM

Hey,

By running CCs script I believe u would lose the bottom 3 of those profile fields which is what u want

I'd wait on CCs response tho

TotalNewbie

lol I just answered yer post on Infopops site to come here hahaha just twigged you are the same person hehehe

TotalNewbie

Ill look there thanks
OK wooould it be safe to say close my board and run the .pl above than upgrade of course backup first!!! Not being able to remove the hacks is what bothered me.....
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This message has been edited by speed on January 30, 2001 at 06:24 PM

Well I went ahead and took the plunge cant get into my control panel to open it up without getting rid of the added hacklines in member profile. tryed running the script above heres what I get I am upgrading right now from 547a to 547b Ihave already uploaded files but cant acces control panel untill I fix this in members dir. getting this error trying to run script above
still no good. cant get the script above to run. HELP

Can't locate UltBB.setup in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Perl/lib D:/Perl/site/lib .) at d:inetpubscriptscgi-bindeletehacklines

Im going to try and make another file and rename it correctly
Help that didnt work either
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This message has been edited by speed on January 30, 2001 at 11:52 PM

CC where are you I need to get my board back open

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Don't put the script in your Members directory, but it in your cgi-bin where your other UBB files are located. Make sure UltBB.setup is also there and your permissions are set correctly.

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Feed me Kelly's Roast Beef and Honey Dew coffee or you'll never see the next UBB release, mwahahahaha!

thanks navaho

speed theres another script in the first page that will back up your extra profile fields too, i suggest you run that one too (to not loose the extra profile fields of your users).

charles capps said something about added Thread Fields in some hacks too, but i was unable to find what hacks do that. (none in my board do this)

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sleepless

Guys the script is in my cgi-bin and permissions are set correctly
Although I have copyed the script twice and tryed the .pl severl times I could give you a URL BUT that would be a dangerous url to post. I guess there is a possiblitty that in notepad its screwing something up when I create the file could someone send me a known good copy of deletehacklists.pl
[email protected]

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Check yer email

Im going to e mail you the command line both files are in my cgi-bin created the folder inside of the members directory and ulbbsetup
does exsist
Still getting Can't locate UltBB.setup in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Perl/lib D:/Perl/site/lib .) at d:inetpubscriptscgi-binfromline16backup.pl line 21.
This is a win 32 server


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put your full ubb cgi path before ultbbsetup in this line

require "UltBB.setup";

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sleepless

I have sent u e mail not sure what you meen Make this change in both of the files deletehackline.pl and fromline16.pl
Is that correct and you meen full url such as what I sent you I must not be getting something

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and insert this

print "HTTP/1.0 200 OKn";

before this

print "Content-Type: text/htmlnn";

if you are running IIS



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sleepless

both

not full url, insert full ubb cgi path

download the Ultbbsetup and grab the content of the variable $CGIPath, inside qq(), and put this before UltBB.setup in require "UltBB.setup";

like $CGIPath = qq(/something/inside/folder/something);

change this

require "UltBB.setup";

for this

require "/something/inside/folder/something/UltBB.setup";

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sleepless

Ihave double checked the change in fromline16backup.pl must be a syntax error somewhere have tried both ways any suggestions Not having a good day. This is what is comming up
Can't locate inetpubscriptsi-binLTBB.SETUP in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Perl/lib D:/Perl/site/lib .) at d:inetpubscriptscgi-binfromline16backup.pl line 21.

Not showing forward slashes but there in the script.


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Everything seems to be fine although in profile there is still a entry for ICQ that must have been line 15 spellcheck dosent work anymore in the upgrade I didnot replace the spellcheck folder it says it cant find sproxy.ini file which I also didnt change But those .pl file are deffinitly different for win 32 feel kind of stupid that I couldnt get it to work.......

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just a note here

can i get my stock ubb scripts, ovewrite them all over my hacked ones, and then update all variables to clean up all the hacks?

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sleepless

yes but any profile #'s added will be there still.....and info in those #'s i mean........so u gotta change the limit to the # u had b4 or else ull get a hacking error........@least thatz what happened with 547d.......no idea bout 6 yet......i been waitin all day for it and its still not out yet!


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I don mean dis in a disrespectful way//
But colombine happens in the ghetto happens every day//
Uncle L

I have everything working in 547d except just lost my control panel links are all wrong where is that limit at I think I understand what your talking about got a few problems now

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Hey copy cat Thanks for everything missed a simple install step. Im sure before Im done Ill be screwed up again. Think I need to go back to bed

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it happens speed im glad it worked in the end (so far)

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sleepless

You ought to document this Put it out in the two versions win32 like I had to use and the original I dont see any traces left of any of the hacks that I had.. Which is a little depressing but compforting to think I shouldnt have any problems with the 6.0 install I was worried about my free mail option because I have alot of people that use it so I stuck it in the header of my control panel. Can leave it there it works fine.

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Bless you The script worked beautifully. I am back to a clean version and ready for 6.0.

I sure do miss seeing who's online while I wait though I hope to heaven that someone hacks up a who's online for 6.0 ASAP

Amy

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http://rewardsandfreebies.epinions.com/user-amykhar

I'm trying to run this script so I can hopefully rescue my board (it's already been upgraded to beta 6, v75 after not being cleaned from a slightly modified 5.47. It had the avatar hack and last post as extra profile fields exist when I did the upgrade. The new board works but is re-writing old member files starting with #1 as new people sign up to register).

Anyway, I backed up my member files and am trying to now run the fromline16backup.pl script. After uploading the file and renaming it, I received this error when trying to execute it:

CGI Error
The specified CGI application misbehaved by not returning a complete set of HTTP headers. The headers it did return are:


Can't locate UltBB.setup in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib .) at d:64.225.35.229cgi-binubbcgifromline16backup.pl line 21.

Can someone offer a possible explanation on something I may have done wrong in trying to execute the script?

Thanks.

If the ugprade went successfully, then you won't have an UltBB.setup file for the script to read..........

Even after completing the upgrade, I still have an Ultbb.setup file in my cgi-bin directory that contains my Ultimate BB cgi files. But as I wrote earlier this script returned the above error saying it couldn't find it.

Help! I did everything you said, and all the member files are working just fine.

But when I open my UBB 6.0, it shows member names either properly or as an image location. This script DID remove the image locations from the member files (I checked), but UBB 6.0 doesn't seem to know this.

Help?

just a note that this scripts are NOT for using with ubb6. as i didnt upgrade my board yet, and im cleaning the lines first, i dont know where ubb6 puts the member lines. i think some beta testers passed through this..

again, please DONT USE THIS SCRIPTS WITH UBB6.

edit: im really worried about this, because ubb6 has plenty of new profile lines, and this script may delete those lines, if used incorrectly, if im not mistaken (reading some frightening statements above). and as i said in both scripts, backup your member files before using those.

again, maybe we need another script to unscramble what ubb6 did with your member files.. but i dont have more information on that, sorry.

[ February 15, 2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]

Okay... then... ummm... Hmmm... Am I screwed?

i hate editing messages you know, but i just did that in my last message.. i suggest you read that...

did you have backup of the member files? actually, as i said in my edit, i dont really know where ubb6 puts the exceding lines, but i heard it scrambles the lines.

this thread https://www.ubbdev.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=20&t=000079 has the mapping of the profile lines of the member files, i dont know if its up-to-date. you can check them out to see if all the profile lines are there... did you use the scripts with ubb6?

you know there are 2 scripts right? one for backuping and another for deleting, right?

sorry man :(, i didnt predict that ..

ubb6 doesn't scramble the profile fields, it just adds new ones... so your script may delete the extra ones ubb6 adds, but ubb6 should just update the member files the next time the user signs on... it sounds like fox still has not run the deletehacklines script if it is showing avatars for public names....

Make backups of your member files and run the script, then upload them to your members directory. Running the "update member post histories" after uploading the member files may or may not be needed...

O_O *faints*

i was browsing thru some ubb6 questions topics, and i felt really dumb, sorry Charles! (the real CC by the way ).

Allen, the delete script is set to update the member files on the server, no need for uploading them again after running, just backuping them for security reasons.

Once I heard some hacks may use extra thread fields too, i couldnt find hacks that do that.

Theres some known issues (never thought in using this expression), with running the scripts under a Win 32 server, which happened with Speed, that couldnt find the file Ultbb.setup. If this is the case, theres some configuration in your Win 32 Perl that says that all file includes (the ones included with "require" command) are to be taken from a default library directory, i think. In any case however, this can be fixed putting the full ubb cgi path (found inside ultbb.setup) before ultbb.setup name in this line: require "UltBB.setup";

i didnt upgrade my board yet. go figure..

edit: btw i should have read the mapping of the profile lines..

[ February 16, 2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]

Ok, I've upgraded to 6. I had one custom field in version 5. Can I use these scripts or not??

thanks

I got UBB 5.47 with plenty of hacks installed
(avatars etc). My UBB is on a Win2000 Server
and I wanna upgrade to UBB6, I've made a backup
on all of my files. Do I need to make an upgrade
to UBB5.47e first?
Could someone please explain how I can
upgrade my board to UBB6.04a and solve the
problem with extra lines in the members files?

This thread feels a littel messy for me and my english

just run the deletehacklines.pl file found on page 2 here... then install v6.. should have no problems. We have used it on several sites...

always make backups.

FYI, if you are uncomfortable doing the job yourself, Infopop now has a similar script (that does the job without the overhead of the existing script...)