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#72441 06/14/2001 4:48 PM
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I use MS Paint and Notepad dammit!

#72443 06/17/2001 5:29 AM
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Well I just voted for somthing because I like polls. j/k. Use dreamweaver rarley.

#72444 06/18/2001 3:15 PM
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Ultra Edit Rokcs!!! smile

#72445 06/18/2001 8:20 PM
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Tell ya what Matt, let me tell you how I see it. When w3.org's own webpage validates without warnings then I will worry or care about it. Who are they to tell me what is or is not valid when they cannot get it right themselves? mad

I have on word for it, and it starts with bull...............

All I care about is whether it looks alright in Nescape and I.E. Have you ever noticed that what they call "valid" does not render the same in both browsers? You may say that one of the browsers is broke. I call that a cop out and say your HTML is broke if you can't code for both of them and make it look the same in each.

Every bit of HTML code that I have ever done looked exactly the same in Netscape as it did in I.E., but yet it's not valid HTML? Bull.............. mad


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Sorry Matt. You really struck a nerve there... frown Didn't mean to pick on you.


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#72447 06/19/2001 12:13 AM
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Mostly, I just write my own in UltraEdit. When I do stuff for money, I use DreamWeaver so that I don't spend so much time coding and the client doesn't get angry at me for padding the bill.

#72448 06/19/2001 12:51 AM
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Obviously, just because it has warnings, it doesn't mean that the code is invalid. They know that, which is why they ignored it.

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Well, Tim Berners-Lee invented the WWW, and is the overall director of the W3C. wink

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Different browsers on different platforms will produce different results. IE will take most any crap code you throw at it, while Netscape is a bit pickier. Opera doesn't stand for anything other than perfection. smile

[ June 19, 2001 12:55 AM: Message edited by: Matt Jacob ]

#72449 06/22/2001 5:48 PM
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go dreamweaver smile

[ June 22, 2001 05:49 PM: Message edited by: TheLizardKing ]

#72450 06/22/2001 6:28 PM
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Any village idiot can produce a web site nowadays using Frontpage, Dreamweaver, etc. The village idiots are now competing in the space of the "true" web developers that learned how to hard code html from day one. The hard coders were too proud to use WYSIWYG, and continued developing the archaic way.

I was fortunate enough to learn both methods- hard coding and WYSIWYG. Both have their place in web development. I'm even humble enough to say the I like FrontPage. I like Dreamweaver. I like Homesite. I like Cold Fusion. Each software also allows me to hardcode, if I need to make subtle changes, or allows me to feel like an ancient html hardcoder folkhero.

For those that pompously proclaim that they use noted or notepad, I bet they use windows or solaris, or irix. Why not be totally pompous and tell everyone that you think in pure binary, or hexadecimal, and all your coding is done in assembly.

Oh, and one more thing... the newest paradigm is Ultradev. When are we going to hear from the old school db heros that Ultradev sucks? I can't wait to fight that one.

Everybody's technical net worth is now equal. And this bothers people. My advice: Embrace change.

[ June 22, 2001 06:30 PM: Message edited by: dfilias ]

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i use win2000 notepad, it doesnt have the restriction on file size, and has the replace feature. what else do I need? laugh
[Edit]Cal, Noted also looks very nice[/Edit]

[ June 22, 2001 07:54 PM: Message edited by: Techguy ]

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"Well, Tim Berners-Lee invented the WWW, and is the overall director of the W3C."


No. It was Al Gore. Just ask him.


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#72453 06/23/2001 12:23 AM
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#72454 06/23/2001 10:09 PM
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Notepad.

[ June 23, 2001 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Zach B ]

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Dreamweaver is what I use smile

#72456 06/29/2001 6:09 AM
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Thats exactly what I use.

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#72458 07/11/2001 8:21 PM
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Dreamweaver 4 and UltraDev...

Confident with DW4 tho smile
Still learning UltraDev frown

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Beta 4 of noted has been released:

www.iamcal.com/software

Just a thought smile

#72460 07/14/2001 7:32 PM
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Did not see notpad anywhere, that is what I use.

#72461 07/15/2001 4:12 PM
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Thanks cal, I will download and try it out when I have a house again. laugh

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Ultra Edit has released version 14 for those keeping up with the Jones smile


- Allen wavey
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