#72401
05/29/2001 3:55 PM
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Posts: 4,625
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Which is it? I make my own..
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#72402
05/29/2001 4:20 PM
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Posts: 594
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Really depends on what the boss at the time wants me to use.
jeremiah
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#72403
05/29/2001 4:32 PM
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Posts: 4,211
Master Hacker
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i obviously write my own code!
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#72404
05/29/2001 4:47 PM
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Posts: 168
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Notepade.exe/vi/pico Depends what OS i'm on at the time...
[ May 29, 2001 05:49 PM: Message edited by: The Prohacker ]
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#72405
05/29/2001 7:06 PM
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Posts: 807
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Im one of the only ones who do their own
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#72406
05/29/2001 8:02 PM
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 817
Moderator / Kingpin
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I prefer Hotdog or TextPad but also will use Dreamweaver from time to time.
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#72407
05/29/2001 8:22 PM
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Notepad!
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#72408
05/29/2001 8:33 PM
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Posts: 13
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I may be the only one on the planet that likes it.
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#72409
05/29/2001 11:30 PM
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Posts: 61
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www.multiedit.com does it all. Asm, Javascript, Perl, html, C, yada yada yada
"Waffles are nothing more than a vehicle for butter and syrup" - Dr. Clayton Forrester
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#72410
05/30/2001 2:00 AM
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Posts: 162
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UltraEdit, very powerful.
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#72411
05/30/2001 2:32 AM
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Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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Programmer
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you missed off Adobe Golive. more common than FP in a professional environment. Golive and Dreamweaver are the only reasonable ones. Do all of mine in noted of course Just a thought
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#72412
05/30/2001 2:32 AM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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#72413
05/30/2001 3:21 AM
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Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 5,073
Admin Emeritus
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Admin Emeritus
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UBB.classic: Love it or hate it, it was mine.
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#72414
05/30/2001 3:56 AM
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Posts: 139
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dreamweaver // ultradev rocks
(and has a nifty build in texteditor)
greetz
Knuff
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#72415
05/30/2001 9:49 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,940
Developer
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Developer
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Use Frontpage for GUI, UltraEdit for speed. Notepad sometimes. Pico on UNIX qasic
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#72416
05/30/2001 1:18 PM
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Posts: 335
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PFE or Wordpad (if doing a lot of text)
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#72417
05/31/2001 3:14 AM
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When I do, Notepad suits me fine..
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#72418
05/31/2001 10:33 AM
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Web based html creator, eaasy
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#72419
05/31/2001 8:56 PM
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Posts: 111
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Who ever uses a html editor?
Co-Admin of Creature World.
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#72420
06/01/2001 12:17 AM
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Posts: 2,223
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Started on notepad, went to PFE, lately using Ultraedit32.
I hates WYSIWYGs to pieces since they never do what I want and I always end up fixing the mess they make when I try to use them. On top of that some are optimized for MS, some for IE. None of them work perfectly for all.
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#72421
06/01/2001 4:30 AM
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Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 7,394
Admin / Code Breaker
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Admin / Code Breaker
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#72422
06/01/2001 7:07 AM
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Posts: 235
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#72423
06/01/2001 7:36 AM
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Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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nav, you should try ' noted '. half the fat of regular editors, and tastes great! Just a thought
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#72424
06/01/2001 7:44 AM
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Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 568
Moderator / Fish
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hehe. yes, noted does rule.
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#72425
06/01/2001 9:19 AM
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Posts: 594
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I second that, Cal you rock! Thanks again
jeremiah
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#72426
06/01/2001 9:23 AM
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#72427
06/01/2001 11:40 AM
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Posts: 195
Member / Eejit
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Member / Eejit
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i make mine the real way.
If I'm leavin' with a broken heart you're leavin' with a broken nose ... ~ Jettingham - Cheating
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#72428
06/01/2001 3:13 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,211
Master Hacker
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Master Hacker
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ahhh, the real way... you're obviously talking about hand-rolling the dough, chopping your own garden-fresh vegetables, and making your sauce from scratch. hmm, maybe that's the real way to make a pizza. but seriously, there is no "real way" to make web pages. writing it by hand is just as "real" as using a wysiwyg editor, is it not? it all depends on what you're trained to use. but saying that using a wysiwyg editor isn't the "real" way is just ignorant.
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#72429
06/01/2001 3:32 PM
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Member / CodeFixer
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#72430
06/01/2001 7:42 PM
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#72431
06/02/2001 12:52 AM
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Posts: 2,798
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#72432
06/02/2001 3:37 PM
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Posts: 2,223
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Hmm, noted is kinda neat. Thanks cal!
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#72433
06/03/2001 9:23 AM
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Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,356
Addict
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Hey, i make my own HTML!
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#72434
06/04/2001 6:13 AM
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Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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Programmer
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another kwality cal product! Just a thought
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#72435
06/05/2001 12:19 AM
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Posts: 52
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Nice little piece of software you got there cal.
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#72436
06/07/2001 10:36 AM
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Posts: 166
Spotlight Winner
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Spotlight Winner
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I'm with CC on this; I write it by hand using UltraEdit .
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#72437
06/07/2001 2:16 PM
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Master Hacker
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i find it pretty funny that most of the people's pages who said they write their own html don't even validate. so i guess that just because you do it by hand, it doesn't mean you're any good at it.
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#72438
06/14/2001 9:20 AM
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#72439
06/14/2001 9:57 AM
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Posts: 299
Member / MultiHacker
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Member / MultiHacker
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Frontpage, and manual edits with UltraEdit. Anyone that says they do it the "real way" are funny. If you worked on a computer the "real way" you wouldn't have a GUI of any sort. I guess "real way" in that sense means the "first way" and usually the most difficult. I use what gets the job done.
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#72440
06/14/2001 10:43 AM
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Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 874
Moderator / Developer
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Moderator / Developer
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EditPad
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#72441
06/14/2001 3:48 PM
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Posts: 12
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#72442
06/15/2001 4:51 PM
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I use MS Paint and Notepad dammit!
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#72443
06/17/2001 4:29 AM
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Posts: 6,708
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Well I just voted for somthing because I like polls. j/k. Use dreamweaver rarley.
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#72444
06/18/2001 2:15 PM
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Ultra Edit Rokcs!!!
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#72445
06/18/2001 7:20 PM
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Posts: 2,223
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Tell ya what Matt, let me tell you how I see it. When w3.org's own webpage validates without warnings then I will worry or care about it. Who are they to tell me what is or is not valid when they cannot get it right themselves? I have on word for it, and it starts with bull............... All I care about is whether it looks alright in Nescape and I.E. Have you ever noticed that what they call "valid" does not render the same in both browsers? You may say that one of the browsers is broke. I call that a cop out and say your HTML is broke if you can't code for both of them and make it look the same in each. Every bit of HTML code that I have ever done looked exactly the same in Netscape as it did in I.E., but yet it's not valid HTML? Bull..............
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#72446
06/18/2001 8:13 PM
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Sorry Matt. You really struck a nerve there... Didn't mean to pick on you.
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#72447
06/18/2001 11:13 PM
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Posts: 41
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Mostly, I just write my own in UltraEdit. When I do stuff for money, I use DreamWeaver so that I don't spend so much time coding and the client doesn't get angry at me for padding the bill.
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#72448
06/18/2001 11:51 PM
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Master Hacker
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Obviously, just because it has warnings, it doesn't mean that the code is invalid. They know that, which is why they ignored it. Well, Tim Berners-Lee invented the WWW, and is the overall director of the W3C. Different browsers on different platforms will produce different results. IE will take most any crap code you throw at it, while Netscape is a bit pickier. Opera doesn't stand for anything other than perfection. [ June 19, 2001 12:55 AM: Message edited by: Matt Jacob ]
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#72449
06/22/2001 4:48 PM
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go dreamweaver [ June 22, 2001 05:49 PM: Message edited by: TheLizardKing ]
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#72450
06/22/2001 5:28 PM
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Any village idiot can produce a web site nowadays using Frontpage, Dreamweaver, etc. The village idiots are now competing in the space of the "true" web developers that learned how to hard code html from day one. The hard coders were too proud to use WYSIWYG, and continued developing the archaic way.
I was fortunate enough to learn both methods- hard coding and WYSIWYG. Both have their place in web development. I'm even humble enough to say the I like FrontPage. I like Dreamweaver. I like Homesite. I like Cold Fusion. Each software also allows me to hardcode, if I need to make subtle changes, or allows me to feel like an ancient html hardcoder folkhero.
For those that pompously proclaim that they use noted or notepad, I bet they use windows or solaris, or irix. Why not be totally pompous and tell everyone that you think in pure binary, or hexadecimal, and all your coding is done in assembly.
Oh, and one more thing... the newest paradigm is Ultradev. When are we going to hear from the old school db heros that Ultradev sucks? I can't wait to fight that one.
Everybody's technical net worth is now equal. And this bothers people. My advice: Embrace change.
[ June 22, 2001 06:30 PM: Message edited by: dfilias ]
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#72451
06/22/2001 6:43 PM
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i use win2000 notepad, it doesnt have the restriction on file size, and has the replace feature. what else do I need? [Edit]Cal, Noted also looks very nice[/Edit] [ June 22, 2001 07:54 PM: Message edited by: Techguy ]
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#72452
06/22/2001 7:36 PM
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Posts: 2,223
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"Well, Tim Berners-Lee invented the WWW, and is the overall director of the W3C."
No. It was Al Gore. Just ask him.
Picture perfect penmanship here.
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#72453
06/22/2001 11:23 PM
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Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 4,211
Master Hacker
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Master Hacker
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Hehehe
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#72454
06/23/2001 9:09 PM
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Posts: 711
Spotlight Winner
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Spotlight Winner
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Notepad.
[ June 23, 2001 10:12 PM: Message edited by: Zach B ]
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#72455
06/27/2001 3:38 PM
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Dreamweaver is what I use
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#72456
06/29/2001 5:09 AM
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Thats exactly what I use.
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#72457
07/11/2001 9:24 AM
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#72458
07/11/2001 7:21 PM
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Posts: 66
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Dreamweaver 4 and UltraDev... Confident with DW4 tho Still learning UltraDev
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#72459
07/12/2001 2:10 AM
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Posts: 1,379
Programmer
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Programmer
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Beta 4 of noted has been released: www.iamcal.com/software Just a thought
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#72460
07/14/2001 6:32 PM
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Posts: 652
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Did not see notpad anywhere, that is what I use.
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#72461
07/15/2001 3:12 PM
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Posts: 4,211
Master Hacker
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Thanks cal, I will download and try it out when I have a house again.
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Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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Ultra Edit has released version 14 for those keeping up with the Jones
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