UBB.Developers Forums General Discussion Chit Chat mySQL and ubb

ok this is a big issuse with ubb, many servers even pay servers are banning flat file cgi forums and scripts, i installed a ikonboard verson 3 beta the other day just for the hell of it and was suprised to find that it can use mySQL. now may i ask why dosent infopop write ubb to read mySQL?. you could in the installing process ask


"flat file cgi?"
"mySQL database"

i know with the new UBBt that its supose to be the "PHP mySQL" forums at infopop but for people like me that
1: dont run big forums
2: am happy with ubb and have no reason to upgrade to ubbt or have the money buy it right now

have no need for ubbt. also ive had to move my forums alot because of the flat file database. and a friend of mine M_E_W cant use ubb anymore cause his server banned it and his new one dosent allow flat file cgi. dont look at this has "he just wants a faster forum". look at it like this, infopop needs to do something about this or it will lose customers. new ones and present ones.

Well I don't think you have a choice but to use UBBT. I think Infopop released that for the people who are having trouble with their server. But it would be good if UBB could run with MysQL too.

Well actualy I can still use my ubb on my ultanime domain but my server just has been goofy the last couple days and i don't know what's going on. As for my new server for another domain I own I just registered the domain for it today and will sign up for the services tomorrow. Anwyways what I'm trying to say is that they don't allow ubb on there server as I was ready and I thought aww damn cause I really like ubb and don't want to use vB, and I think like loo is saying here it's a good idea to try to get this to work with MySQL so more servers will allow ubb again. I would probely exalorate more on this, but i'm to tired to even finish this message....zzzzzzzz

UBB not adding a MySql backend is the main reason why UBB is no longer the dominant bulletin board on the net.
Everyone is switching to VBulletin.

not everyone.

I have seen this "question" being asked time and time again, look, either customize your UBB to use a MySQL backend (I amn't sure if Infopops license allows you to do so), or use a different forum software. Simple.

Plenty of excellent sites run vBulletin, plenty of excellent sites run UBB .. accept it.

Well said bob. And infopop allows you to hack mysql in.

Its hard to do for the beginner..

AND! mysql is not the only load issue. Its a small part of disk I/O.
Its being worked on, IMVVHO!

infopop needs to do something, and fast! cause lets face it, open topic and UBB threads flat out suck. i'm not gonna lie to you. We all are here because we use UBB. I mean come on, look at what's happening infopop!! some of the best UBBs have gone vB. Final Fantasy Republic has gone vB, hip hop hangout has gone vB, and even ZELDAGLITCHES has gone vb!!!

yep, many sites are jumping over to vB, not cause they want to, cause there servers just cant handel the ubb anymore. thats what im getting at here.

What is to be believed? The hosts say it's UBB's problem. Infopop says it's the hosts' problem. Both can supply seemingly valid arguments for their statements. Of course I'm inclined to agree with Infopop myself, but just because I agree doesn't mean everyone has to.

As Bob said, it's not like you've only got one choice in the matter. If you wanna use UBB, yay for you. If you wanna use vB, yay for you. RushMagazine went the vB route too, btw... but I suppose I'm good with it, cuz I get to customize it for them. I'll just make it pretty and try to forget it's a vb.

(Personally, I think Infopop took the easy way out - they bought Threads so they could have a php/sql product but wouldn't have to admit that UBB was in need of the mySQL db. But that's just my general take on it.)

---Skorpion

Skorp i do fell the same way about the whole ubbT thing. but MM, i seem to remember you cooking something up for ubb to read mySQL. if im right how is that coming along?

i suggest you do something for oracle 8i also if you do this. mysql is really bad (it doesnt lock a register, it locks an entire table). its better than flat files though (but its not every server that has it). im fine with my situation though. its just a matter of pretending im not home when my server admin knocks. (lol jk).

my forum is huge though, its normal for me to have problems. it wouldnt be different with another low-budget forum software available right now, so i choosed ubb.

[ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: CopyCat ]

It's a pitty to see so many good UBB's going to vB. It really is their only choice, I know alot of servers that don't like UBB and don't allow it and some servers that have very huge UBB Board decide when it's set up on their server and very active to get rid of it. Do you see anyone switching from vB to UBB? I don't think so, and if Infopop don't want to loose they will somehow have to make the UBB more server-friendly.

i know of one site, it was ubb then vB then ubb agane then vB agane now its ikonboard 3 beta *smells a Warez*

http://forums.counter-strike.net ?

I wouldn't go jumping to any warez conclusions... Not everyone is broke. I myself own UBB and a vB license, only to support MultiHack... I don't exactly make a lot of money in my profession either, but I saved the money to buy then. Why can't someone else, without being accused of running a pirated copy?

cause before he installed ikonboards he asked me for a 6.1.0.1 and i said no

On my personal site (blue-pixel.net) i have "unlimited space" and "unlimited bandwidth" and on the agreement they didn't restrict it, but they said that they'd prefer if i DIDN'T use flat file cgi message boards on it (not that i would in the first place, personally i'm a ----- guy). I mean, infopop doesn't have control over which servers allow UBB (yet..) but the servers have control over their hostees, and they can or cannot allow UBB to be run on their servers. So if SOMEONE should make changes, it's infopop because soon enough the trend will continue and the major customers/supporters will migrate to other systems as demanded by their hosts. And what if they just leave their hosts and go to another host that allows UBB? Well, then THAT new host will be loaded with hosted UBBs and it'll end up slowing THEM down and they'll disallow UBB as well. It's like a chain reaction. I'm not condoning it, no, i mean it'd be great to keep infopop on top, but their popularity isn't exacty rising.

I still don't understand why CS went with a Ikonboard, I mean they are a very very popular site and board and they went with a free one....

maybe db support. i remember them *****ing about mysql.

The mysql conversion keeps getting pulled back. I'm also working on I/O decreasing routines, to tie in with the database.

ok, im looking foward to it man

Most people switch to vBulletin because they like it better; if you ask around, and also look around they will say vBulletin is better then UBB, say vBulletin offers more features then UBB[which is true], or they don't want to hack the forum with everything they had everytime infopop makes a new release >_< which is kinda annoying. because infopop makea a new release daily it seems _-_; so overall vB just has more to offer then UBB. So in my opinion it is not the sever that always bans UBB, because I can name hundreds of sever that allow UBB, but the webbies[webmaster] prefer vBulletin over it. go ask around, you will see main reasons are webbies prefer vB over UBB, because it offers more, faster, easy to config, comes with more things, cheaper and finally the dont want to hack all that stuff into a board to make it look, in which they bought a product that costs more then another that is better.

Sounds like somebody doesn't work for Jelsoft... :rolleyes:

---Skorpion

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

:rolle-...no.

Well, I just prefer UBB. It looks so much better to me, and I enjoy adding hacks I like rather than having them ALL in the base code ala vB.

LOL! This is moronic. UBB and UBBDev have set the standard for the way 98% of the features in vB work! UBB set the standard for the GUI.

Someone close this topic, its getting out of hand.

Sage, i believe a discussion about technics is way better than discussing over different board systems.

alright, but I also stated that is not why most people swithc to vB 'cause of there host banning them.