#83678
05/20/2002 3:11 AM
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Hi, Umbrella Online's server recently had a major problem, and my UBB got lost with it. So I have to re-build and re-hack all over again due to me being on a new pc, and was never able to make a backup  I was wondering whether it would be worth waiting for 6.3.1 because I can't use Beyond Compare (too confusing for me) and I'm not wanting to upgrade for some time to come. Thanks, Oblivion Knight
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#83679
05/20/2002 3:25 AM
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No, but look at UBBDev.com's version # 
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#83680
05/20/2002 5:22 AM
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Will there even be a 6.3.1 this time? You don't know that.
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#83681
05/20/2002 11:11 AM
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Last I heard there will be a 6.3.1. It's scheduled to include Mass Move. When will it be ready? When it's done! 
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#83682
05/20/2002 12:36 PM
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We're looking at public beta of 6.3.1 very soon now - after the 6.3.0.1 release, of course.
UBB.classic: Love it or hate it, it was mine.
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#83683
05/20/2002 9:46 PM
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Any idea when 6.3.0.1 might be out? And why does UBBDev get a copy of it several days before it's released? 
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#83684
05/20/2002 9:50 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BlueWave:
Any idea when 6.3.0.1 might be out? And why does UBBDev get a copy of it several days before it's released?
because ubbdev helps test the product before it is released to the public, its to nock out bugs and test it with a few hacks, but you will have to wait on a admin to get a full answer, i think LK handels the upgrading and testing here but i could be wrong.
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#83685
05/20/2002 10:18 PM
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Another version? Doesn't it become a b!tch having to rehack every other week?! Jeez!
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#83686
05/20/2002 11:20 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by BloggerMan:
Another version? Doesn't it become a b!tch having to rehack every other week?! Jeez!
It used to be but I guess I've gotten use to it.
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#83687
05/20/2002 11:39 PM
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Yeah, but wouldn't it suck having to re-write every hack for each version?
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#83688
05/21/2002 12:17 AM
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Very few hacks have required a total rewrite since the 6.05 -> 6.1 transition. Almost all hacks that work on 6.1 will work with every subsequent version, and vice versa. It's just a matter of finding where the code moved.  We're working our way down the version list a handful of features at a time. We've been TRYING to get sped up to 45 days between the release of the previous version and the first beta release of the next. We haven't managed to get there yet, but we're working on it. Very hard. And if you don't like the schedule we're trying to keep then perhaps you'd like it if we never released a new version?
UBB.classic: Love it or hate it, it was mine.
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#83689
05/21/2002 12:42 AM
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I like the thrill of making each new version look totally different. I do a lot more template hacking than cgi hacking these days. That makes the upgrades a lot easier.
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#83690
05/21/2002 1:30 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by usr bin geek:
Last I heard there will be a 6.3.1. It's scheduled to include Mass Move.
When will it be ready? When it's done!
Really? w00t. Mass move is a great feature. 
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#83691
05/21/2002 9:30 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by BloggerMan:
Another version? Doesn't it become a b!tch having to rehack every other week?! Jeez!
u might wanna start using beyound compare or a lil progy i use, it can be found here
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#83692
05/21/2002 3:49 PM
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well, dev beta one of 6.3.1 is out.
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#83693
05/21/2002 4:01 PM
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Well, in that case it'll probably be released when our member area subscription runs out -- probably the same day
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#83694
05/22/2002 2:26 PM
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*sigh* I've really got to learn how to use Beyond Compare..
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#83696
05/23/2002 4:05 AM
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Beyond compare isn't that hard to use. You'll get the hang of it soon.
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#83697
05/23/2002 8:01 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:
Beyond compare isn't that hard to use. You'll get the hang of it soon.
That's encouraging. I've been thinking the same thing as Oblivion Knight, but I guess it'll be the same with me and MultiHack, downloaded it thinking I wouldn't use it, now I'm addicted. So I guess it really is worth the $30...
~Jon
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#83698
05/24/2002 2:20 AM
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Haha. Well I figured it out myself. Simple as comparing new versions file and your hacked file are transferring new code and then saving.
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#83699
05/24/2002 3:35 AM
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As soon as I'm done hacking Umbrella Online for a third time, they'll go and release 6.3.0.1 public won't they..? The joy of keeping up to date.. :rolleyes:
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#83700
05/24/2002 4:12 AM
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I agree, I really should think Infopop should release versions slower and take their time.
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#83701
05/24/2002 5:00 AM
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I disagree, if you wish _you_ can skip a version, but the users who want to be updated and have a bugfixed board can't wait for so long.
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#83702
05/24/2002 6:27 AM
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Lets take vB for an example. The latest version (2.2.5) has been in for months. I don't wish infopop to take THAT long but at least leave a month inbetween each version unless it's a big update needed. Of course nobody listens to the customers but it's the way some people feel.
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#83703
05/24/2002 8:45 AM
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I don't think you understand something: they don't make you upgrade.
If you want to upgrade monthly, and they release 3 releases a month, upgrade only to the third one.
Ofcourse that they don't listen to you, because also many request them to release even faster, and they know that you can skip versions, but the ones that request many releases can't "create" releases.
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#83704
05/25/2002 10:32 AM
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Version 6.3.0 - May 09, 2002
Version 6.2.1.3 - April 22, 2002
Version 6.2.1.2 - April 09, 2002
Version 6.2.1.1 - March 13, 2002
Version 6.2.1 - February 16, 2002
Version 6.2.0 - January 28, 2002
Version 6.1.0.4 - January 10, 2002
Version 6.1.0.3 - November 16, 2001
Version 6.1.0.2 - October 26, 2001
Version 6.1.0.1 - October 24, 2001
Version 6.1 - October 19, 2001
I count two months between major versions. 6.2 and 6.3 will have a .1 release adding a minor feature, each released a month after the original.
If we keep this trend up, 6.4 will be out in August. I'm personally hoping for late July, but that's just me.
I don't see how a major version ever three months is releasing too quickly.
I also don't see how relasing critical bugfixes is ever, EVER an issue.
Your arguments are completely, totally invalid.
UBB.classic: Love it or hate it, it was mine.
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#83705
05/25/2002 12:53 PM
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I type Like navaho
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:
Lets take vB for an example. The latest version (2.2.5) has been in for months. I don't wish infopop to take THAT long but at least leave a month inbetween each version unless it's a big update needed. Of course nobody listens to the customers but it's the way some people feel.
Sorry LD, but you gotta lay off the hard stuff
2.2.0 10-31-2001
2.2.1 11-15-2001 (2 weeks)
2.2.2 01-21-2002 (8 weeks)
2.2.3 03-06-2002 (6 weeks)
2.2.4 03-10-2002 (4 days)
2.2.5 04-01-2002 (2 weeks)
2.2.6 05-04-2002 (5 weeks)
Now what software were you talking about?
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#83706
05/25/2002 2:50 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by AllenAyres:
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:
Lets take vB for an example. The latest version (2.2.5) has been in for months. I don't wish infopop to take THAT long but at least leave a month inbetween each version unless it's a big update needed. Of course nobody listens to the customers but it's the way some people feel.
Sorry LD, but you gotta lay off the hard stuff
2.2.0 10-31-2001
2.2.1 11-15-2001 (2 weeks)
2.2.2 01-21-2002 (8 weeks)
2.2.3 03-06-2002 (6 weeks)
2.2.4 03-10-2002 (4 days)
2.2.5 04-01-2002 (2 weeks)
2.2.6 05-04-2002 (5 weeks)
Now what software were you talking about?
2.2.6 hasent been releaed to the public yet, i sould know ive been waiting on it to update the php on one of my sites , however like i said in a reply that got deleated, the updates are good for bug fixes and infopop is keeping the bulk of its users in mind, IE, non hacked boards
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#83707
05/25/2002 5:12 PM
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I type Like navaho
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ok... they released a patch tho... we'll call it 2.2.5.1
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#83708
05/25/2002 7:18 PM
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LK said: quote:
they don't make you upgrade
A statement of absolute precision - and with that in mind - we've all got the best of whatever it is that we want, whenever we want it!
I'm depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.
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