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#87507 04/21/2003 5:51 PM
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Yeah, we were discussing this on IRC... One person seemed particularly scared about it laugh

Personally I always have (and will) use IE, cause even though almost everyone hates it and thinks it sucks, at least you know it's not gonna come and stab you in the back wink

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... so he's parinoid because it's loading the PGP DLLs? Has it occured to him that Opera is also an email client.. email being one of the key uses of PGP?


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#87510 04/22/2003 2:43 PM
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at least you know it's not gonna come and stab you in the back wink
But... do you really? shocked

#87511 04/22/2003 8:03 PM
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Originally posted by CTM:

Personally I always have (and will) use IE, cause even though almost everyone hates it and thinks it sucks
Actually almost everyone loves it (or at least accepts IE) as their standard browser. I'd say a good 97% of all internet users. laugh

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#87512 04/22/2003 8:45 PM
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MS Internet Explorer 92.6 %
Netscape 5.4 %
Opera 0.7 %
Unknown 0.5 %
Safari 0.3 %

The top 5 browsers that are used on my site. So yep I have to agree. Also XP has now edged out the other OS's for the #1 position.

#87513 04/22/2003 9:59 PM
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Hey...Site's back up. laugh And so I was saying...

Heh...I wonder what 98se is in rank. smile Does your stats also display the users' resolution rates?

#87514 04/23/2003 5:49 AM
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[qb]Originally posted by CTM:
at least you know it's not gonna come and stab you in the back wink [/qb]
But... do you really? shocked
Well, yeah... Cause it's only little companies that want to know what you're looking at, so they can try to sell the information to bigger companies like MS laugh

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[qb]Originally posted by CTM:

Personally I always have (and will) use IE, cause even though almost everyone hates it and thinks it sucks
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Actually almost everyone loves it (or at least accepts IE) as their standard browser. I'd say a good 97% of all internet users. laugh
Just because everyone uses it doesn't mean everyone likes it... laugh Though that's false in my case. laugh

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Hey...Site's back up. laugh And so I was saying...

Heh...I wonder what 98se is in rank. smile Does your stats also display the users' resolution rates?
I was never were down. Although I had a small outage for an hour or 2 a few days ago due to my ISP.


My top OS's:

Windows XP 36.6 %
Windows 98 27.9 %
Windows 2000 13.3 %
Windows Me 12.7 %
Mac OS 3 %
Windows 95 1.9 %
Windows NT 1.8 %
Linux 1.2 %
Unknown 0.6 %
Mac OS X 0.5 %

And yes AWStats now does handle screen resolutions smile

#87516 04/23/2003 9:25 AM
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I install IE only for system updates. It really sucks and crashes a lot and I' m not using it now. Opera is better and faster...

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#87517 04/23/2003 6:39 PM
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Originally posted by CTM:
Just because everyone uses it doesn't mean everyone likes it... laugh
True...I like it though. smile

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I was never were down. Although I had a small outage for an hour or 2 a few days ago due to my ISP.

And yes AWStats now does handle screen resolutions smile
Yeah...I was referring to UBBDev. This site went down for about 20 mins. smile

Windows 98se is in second. Cool! laugh At least I'm not dying breed...Well, yet anyway. LOL. help

Thanks for the link. That stats look awesome. thumbsup

#87519 04/24/2003 11:18 AM
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If opera is spyware it wouldn't surprise me. You can't make money giving a browser away for free, even if its ad supported. But on the other hand there is a lot of money to be made in selling demographics and metrics.

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Originally posted by usr bin geek:
If opera is spyware it wouldn't surprise me. You can't make money giving a browser away for free, even if its ad supported.
Netscape? IE? wink

#87521 04/25/2003 3:06 AM
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Have they made money giving it away? No, not one cent from the browser.

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User bin has a point and so does Burak. smile

Correct me if I'm wrong but Microsoft doesn't need to generate significant revenue (if any) off of their browser simply because their other products do just fine. Internet Explorer is an accessory to the other applications...The browser intergrates well with other media types. No spyware or adware needed here. help laugh

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I've got one laugh
It's owned by AOL.
AOL kinda falls into the MS category of not needing to make money.
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Works for me. laugh

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Originally posted by usr bin geek:
Have they made money giving it away? No, not one cent from the browser.
You are missing the "strategy" here... Microsoft made IE freeware to block others. Maybe it looks like they dont earn any money from it, but the reality is different smile They kicked other softwares out from the browser category...


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