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Posted By: CopyCat for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 12:32 AM
guys, hows the compatibility with w9x software? i heard microsoft released a compatibility patch, does it work ok?

im thinking about using xp here.. my machine has 128ram 450mhz, do you know if itll handle it?

thanks
Posted By: Jamin Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 12:46 AM
450mhz should be fine. I put XP on my family's computer which runs at 400, and it does decent. 128mb of memory is gonna be your biggest bottleneck though. Since memory is dirt cheap right now, I'd suggest adding *at least* another stick of 128, or more than that if possible. On my own computer, it currently reports using 119mb of physical memory, and that's running nothing but Windows and its standard services, Apache server, and Winamp. So add lots more memory if you can.

The only 9x program I've ever had a problem with on XP is the BlackIce firewall, and even using the compatibility manager thingy it won't work. Microsoft has a net-based compatibility checker if you're unsure, so try THIS to check your hardware and software.

Hope this helps.

---Jamin
Posted By: Lord Dexter Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 12:53 AM
I heard it was only compatiable with 700Mhz and Over. I'm running 64MB and 450Mhz and I might upgrade my RAM and upgrade to XP. But I think I'm getting a new comp soon.
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 12:57 AM
Jamin, XP comes with a built-in firewall, simply called "Internet Connection Firewall," but you need to turn it on before you can use it. Go to Start> Search and do one on "firewall." It'll tell you more than I can, and even give you links to turning it on.

However, I use a hardware firewall here, so I've never actually tested it. You wanna be a guinea pig and tell us how it goes?
Posted By: RANCH4x4 Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 1:01 AM
Professional ran fine on 128mb of ram for me, I think you would be limited on a 64mb machine, but you could always upgrade. I threw a 512MB card in and WoW!

[ 01-23-2002 05:02 PM: Message edited by: RANCH4x4 ]
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 1:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:
I heard it was only compatiable with 700Mhz and Over.



From the system requirements page :
Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Professional
  • PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
  • 128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
  • 1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
  • Super VGA (800 × 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
  • CD-ROM or DVD drive
  • Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
Posted By: CopyCat Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 1:12 AM
wow thanks guys
i read the system req. at microsoft, just wasnt sure if it would run sloppy at the recommended settings

well, off to make some backups...
how much is a 256 stick? better yet, how do i check my memory type to see which one to buy?
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 1:23 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CopyCat:
how much is a 256 stick?



~ $30-35 USD for PC133, but I'd get at least 512 megs, because it's only ~ $60 right now. Check pricewatch.com for all your purchasing needs.
Posted By: CopyCat Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 1:59 AM
thanks matt

can i get anyone of those? pc100,133 or 150? can i use a 128 pc133 with a 512pc133?

any gaming person using xp? any problem running games?
Posted By: Stilgar Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 2:03 AM
pricewatch for RAM? The only place I buy RAM from is www.crucial.com.
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 2:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar:
The only place I buy RAM from is www.crucial.com. wink
Posted By: Stilgar Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 2:26 AM
I won't be buying "printer RAM" by mistake.
Posted By: RandyM Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 2:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar:
pricewatch for RAM? The only place I buy RAM from is www.crucial.com.



That's what I'm saying too. Their prices are outstanding, and their customer service is only surpassed by the quality of their products.

A couple dollars difference can save you hours of frustration and troubleshooting that can happen when you buy "cheap" ram.
Posted By: Stilgar Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 3:27 AM
...and free shipping.
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 7:10 AM
R-i-p-o-f-f.
Posted By: Lord Dexter Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 7:40 AM
Thanks for that Matt. I can just upgrade my RAM and install it.
Posted By: Dave2 Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 9:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Jacob:
Jamin, XP comes with a built-in firewall, simply called "Internet Connection Firewall," but you need to turn it on before you can use it. Go to Start> Search and do one on "firewall." It'll tell you more than I can, and even give you links to turning it on.

However, I use a hardware firewall here, so I've never actually tested it. You wanna be a guinea pig and tell us how it goes? smile
Posted By: Jamin Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 10:04 PM
Matt y Dav2:

Yeah, that firewall is crap. Dave2, it also has *something* to do with outgoing, because it messed up my mp3 server in mIRC. I could download files, but it blocked my server from sending them. Turned it off and they ran fine again. Dunno what that's all about.

---Jamin
Posted By: Greg Hard Re: for you xp users... - 01/24/2002 10:11 PM
Oh oh! I'm a gamer! Games work great on XP. XP is stable and robust. LD, dont buy a new system, upgrade the one you have.
Posted By: CopyCat Re: for you xp users... - 01/26/2002 6:07 AM
ok im a xper now

the bad part was looking for smartdrive inside my w98 .cab files, and then finding it in the same directory they were smirk
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/26/2002 9:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CopyCat:
ok im a xper now smile You must have a lot of spare change lying around...
Posted By: CopyCat Re: for you xp users... - 01/26/2002 10:31 AM
well men dont need food that much do we

matt, i think i saw some post made by you somewhere with an application for changing xps look... freeware i think..?.. im not sure if i like this blue thing here O_o i installed plus also but that "space" and "da vinci" things...

my memory is 128 sdram pc100, its not fast, but its running fine so far.
Posted By: Matt Jacob Re: for you xp users... - 01/26/2002 10:38 AM
I don't know if I posted anything before, but StyleXP is really neat.
Posted By: Troy Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 1:20 AM
I have it installed at work on a P233, 64 meg of ram. =)

This was simply to do screenshots for it. While it runs slower than snot down a flag pole outside in January, it does work.
Posted By: Lord Dexter Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 2:14 AM
Well like the requirements said some things may not work with 64MB Ram, so it's better to be safe with 128MB.
Posted By: Greg Hard Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 4:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Matt Jacob:
I don't know if I posted anything before, but StyleXP is really neat.



Do NOT use Style XP, its shareware and dangerous. Crack the DLL with this .
Posted By: Greg Hard Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 4:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:
Well like the requirements said some things may not work with 64MB Ram, so it's better to be safe with 128MB.



Actually, you are safer with 192MB of ram.
Posted By: RandyM Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 4:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Stilgar:
...and free shipping.



I save over 80 percent by buying my Compaq Proliant server memory from them. I peeled the compaq sticker off of a 3500 dollar 1 gig stick one day and found a crucial sticker underneath. Last year I saved over 700,000 dollars on memory alone. I have never had a failure or downtime because of their memory.
Posted By: Lord Dexter Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 5:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Greg Hard:


Actually, you are safer with 192MB of ram.



Well whatever then, 128 or Higher is fine.
Posted By: Greg Hard Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 5:43 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Dexter:


Well whatever then, 128 or Higher is fine.



Actually, Mr. Laporte and Mr. Norton of Techtv's The Screen Savers say 256.
Posted By: RANCH4x4 Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 5:45 AM
I'd use 128mb as a minimum, 192 works great, thats what I used for a while until I decided the more the merrier.
Posted By: Greg Hard Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 6:47 AM
Yea, more ram is usually better -- XP supports alot, its the mobos you have to ask. 256 is good, but I have 512 soon to have 1gig or 640...

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Posted By: Brad.loo Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 7:02 AM
i running nearly 3 gigs of sd ram under 2k right now, aside form a 5 minute boot time its fast as hell
Posted By: Lord Dexter Re: for you xp users... - 01/27/2002 7:37 AM
3 gigs? Woah. eek
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