well one thing I forgot was this at the top of my banner.inc.php
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It must be pretty important
so now I am getting just this
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /usr/www/efs/ubbthreads/includes/banner.inc.php:24) in /usr/www/efs/ubbthreads/ubbt.inc.php on line 328
I will try the the buffering now-
*edit-still getting that last error even after inserting the buffer code*
