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has anyone thought of a UBBPortal similar to vBPortal ? [ 01-13-2002 08:05 PM: Message edited by: [ #1 Stunna ] ]
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I think it's a great idea.
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01/14/2002 12:04 AM
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I am confuzzeled (nothing new) What is or does VBPortal do?
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01/14/2002 5:22 AM
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Besides grouping a few of our modifications together and calling it ubb portal... what do you see in vbportal that we don't have on the https://ubbdev.com/ page here? An SSI of polls might be about the only one not done yet....
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#56528
01/14/2002 11:04 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by AllenAyres:
Besides grouping a few of our modifications together and calling it ubb portal...
What would be wrong with that?
I think it would be a lot of work, but if everyone worked on it together I think it could be done. There is some talent here amongst the ubb hacks.
It would definately need some sort of controls in the cp for turning different mods on or off.
I actually think you guys could make it even better than the one for vbulletin. Considering ubb is by far a better forum than vbulletin, that would be an easy task. 
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01/14/2002 12:16 PM
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I have to agree that giving the portal page CP control would be great. And why not throw in MySQL support while you're at it? Sorry, I had to throw that one in there.
I love UBBDevs home page implementation, but it would be easier and very marketable to have a portal built in so new people could roll out a UBB integrated site easier. It would give them a good foundation for a faster start. I realize that there are a lot of purist that would scoff at that idea but I feel it's valid.
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#56530
01/14/2002 12:28 PM
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It's definitely valid, and probably something we could do quite easily and put an mhk together on... installation on a clean ubb would take 5-10 minutes and have no errors.
What features would you like to see?
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01/14/2002 12:30 PM
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Would need to remain "modularized" so that upgrades to sections (like the calendar or news) could be done easily.
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01/14/2002 12:37 PM
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Allen, you rock. As soon as I get off my laptop (and off work) I'll throw some ideas together if you like. I'm not sure how valuable a single persons input is. But having it use the variables that the normal UBB pages do, and style templates would be a huge plus.
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#56533
01/14/2002 12:43 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by AllenAyres:
Besides grouping a few of our modifications together and calling it ubb portal... what do you see in vbportal that we don't have on the https://ubbdev.com/ page here? An SSI of polls might be about the only one not done yet....
well, from what i can assert, vBPortal ships "ready to plug in out of the box". It has all of those features that you see demonstrated on PHPportals.com w/o much tinkering. It also has a very nice CP:
http://www.phpportals.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=15384
they also have that cool little ShoutBox thing. all in all, it's a very, very cool plug & play solution.
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01/14/2002 12:49 PM
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hmmm... ok  one person's input is ok, but it's at least 2 now since mine is included too... I imagine we'll have quite a few more as it develops. I'll put requested features here so we can update as we go: Requested Features: Must-haves: - News SSI - done
- Latest Threads SSI - done
- Polls SSI
- Calendar SSI - done
- Forum Styles - done
- ???
Wants: - WOL SSI
- Login Box for those not logged in and "welcome username" for those logged in
- web links
- shout box
- panels toggled on and off
- announcement posting icons
- User-posted Reviews
- Downloads Section
- Image Gallery
- ???
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#56535
01/14/2002 12:53 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by [ #1 Stunna ]:
well, from what i can assert, vBPortal ships "ready to plug in out of the box". It has all of those features that you see demonstrated on PHPportals.com w/o much tinkering. It also has a very nice CP:
they also have that cool little ShoutBox thing. all in all, it's a very, very cool plug & play solution.
vbportal isn't the easiest to install and has some major html problems in the default styles that do not work well in browsers other than the latest IE. There are some things that could be done much better...
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01/14/2002 12:58 PM
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Allen, your list is outstanding, and something that I could use immediately.
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01/14/2002 1:08 PM
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I can put together one using the latest modifications we have here, tho I don't know if we have a poll ssi yet, I'll have to check the threads. And I might need assistance with the forum styles, tho I think grabbing the one Jamin did with pulling forum header/footers across should take care of it
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#56538
01/14/2002 4:51 PM
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Allen, have a gawk @ vBulletin.org . It's a good example and has pretty much everything that you listed above. Don't forget the SHOUTBOX and polling.
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#56539
01/14/2002 4:53 PM
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O, one more thing, when you go into PHPportal.com's forum you have an option in the upper right that allows you to toggle the sidebar SSI on & off. Just FYI.
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#56540
01/14/2002 6:28 PM
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Allen, need any help? I could code a master interface for it. Turn on/off different panels, customize things, blah, in other words, i'm bored with studying for my exams and want something else to do. I'll code or do anything if you need it, I like the idea of UBB Portal. [ 01-14-2002 05:39 PM: Message edited by: DPK ]
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#56541
01/14/2002 7:16 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by DPK:
Allen, need any help?  You would do a much better job than I anyways - I am just getting the ball rolling LK has already assisted me in getting the forum styles to pull to the page (we'll use it for the style rotation thing as well).
The basics are there (except for the poll ssi), it just needs some integration and clean-up. Turning off and on panels are useful too
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#56542
01/14/2002 7:38 PM
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avatars in news would be nice  aside form my ubb i also run a vB, www.animeforumz.com , see the stats at the top of the page? how about something to list the most viewed post, and top posteds etc. mabey addons to the member list? [ 01-14-2002 06:41 PM: Message edited by: Anime-loo ]
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01/14/2002 8:14 PM
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I have a feeling that something really good is going to come from this.
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#56544
01/14/2002 8:34 PM
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if its needed i might be able to get a copy of vBportal to one of the people coding this if they need it, im sure you dont tho
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#56545
01/15/2002 12:02 AM
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No, don't do that - this should be a cleanroom implementation.
Make a feature list and stick to it. Cloning a product feature for feature is not wise, even if it's free.
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#56546
01/15/2002 1:05 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Charles Capps:
No, don't do that - this should be a cleanroom implementation.
Make a feature list and stick to it. Cloning a product feature for feature is not wise, even if it's free.
acully they charge $20 for vBportal
 and i know its a bad idea, i thought whom ever was doing it might wnana look at it in case they got stuck coding something is all, i dont wanna clone, vBportal isent that great IMO
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#56547
01/15/2002 1:35 AM
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Not very legal either if you ask me... charging money for a product clearly a port of a GPL-licensed script (phpnuke). Yes, they may have added their own little flares to it, but it's still based on open-sourced scripts. Even if it manuevers somehow to be legal, it's still not right. Anyways, enough of vbp, this one could be nicer and much easier to install In the meantime, post suggestions and pointers to code if you gottem
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#56548
01/15/2002 6:39 AM
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I didn't write it, I just took Skorpion's code and moved it to one file... Skorp's code is better because you don't have to upload ultimatebb.cgi every time you modify something, but for some reason it didn't work on UBBDev's testboard 
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01/15/2002 11:49 AM
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hmmm... I don't understand the re-uploading part, but ok Once we get some initial coding from DPK we'll open a beta thread and go from there, in the mean time, we'll work on goals and direction. I added the "announcement post icons" to the list...
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01/15/2002 12:11 PM
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You guys are getting me all excited now.
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01/15/2002 1:48 PM
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I think compact headers/footers might also be a nice addition.
Someone may have already mentioned this, but a collapsable sidebar would very cool too.
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01/15/2002 4:23 PM
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me two, all we need is a way to have diff templates to diff styles and i can get animeforumz.com on a ubb 6.2! i hate that vB, i so wanna buy anthor ubb and convert it over [ 01-15-2002 03:25 PM: Message edited by: Anime-loo ]
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#56553
01/15/2002 5:11 PM
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This is the structure I was sorta thinking about... ![[Linked Image]](http://dpk.b000.net/testing/misc/ubbp_struc.gif) It's basically self explanatory, except for the modules directory. The modules directory will contain a single file for each mod included into the portal. The file (ubbp_mod_ .cgi) will contain information that can be parsed quickly so it can be served to anyone visiting your site.
Modules are loaded automatically for convenience (sorta like on newspro, not hard to do). Settings for that module then magically appear in the cp, letting you enable/disable it, move it up/down - left/right, or whatever. All settings are saved to a central config file.
Through 'hooks' in ubb_portal.cgi, the modules can insert parts of them-weird-selves. The visitor to your site never really sees anything except index.shtml which wonderfully uses ssi to include different things.
Come hither and dissertate your thoughts...
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01/15/2002 5:42 PM
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anyone feel like designing a logo? anyone feel like designing the public interface, making sure it's xhtml compliant and all the other such.
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01/15/2002 5:49 PM
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Your structure/plans sound good DPK, especially the plug-in/module support.
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01/15/2002 6:30 PM
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have a news sorter, u can sort via newest, oldest, acending, decending etc.
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01/15/2002 6:42 PM
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This is a great idea guys. I like it.
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01/15/2002 8:45 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Anime-loo:
have a news sorter, u can sort via newest, oldest, acending, decending etc.
most likely the news will be stored in an announcements forum.. would be much more valuable there for commenting, searching, etc...
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#56559
01/15/2002 8:51 PM
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How did i MISS this thread? If anyone's interested I have a more advanced ubbnews i can easily name "UBBPortal News" or something. Just ask.
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01/15/2002 8:54 PM
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Greg: advanced, how so?
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quote:
Originally posted by DPK:
anyone feel like designing a logo?
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That looks great, and I have a newly designed site I just put up today that REALLY wants this portal.
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