#74027
07/12/2001 5:03 PM
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Moderator / Template Diva
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God Bless America! (Or whatever other country they're from...) ---Skorpion
Don't put that signature in your mouth! You don't know where it's been!
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#74028
07/12/2001 5:24 PM
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Can anyone list all of the the pros and cons of UBB vs. VB ? (objectively)
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#74029
07/12/2001 5:31 PM
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I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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no... you'll find biased opinions on both sites... it's a matter of personal choice basically, but we like ubb.
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#74030
07/12/2001 6:54 PM
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Admin Emeritus
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They blew up their vB when they tried to pack a few hundred concurrent users on it...
I'm surprised that the UBB is handling things as well as it is though....
UBB.classic: Love it or hate it, it was mine.
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#74031
07/12/2001 8:20 PM
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Ouch, they have a nice sized board. I wonder how vBulletin will handle the news?
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#74032
07/12/2001 8:27 PM
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Yeah c.s's Board is one huge board. It's good to have em on a UBB now.
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#74033
07/12/2001 9:52 PM
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I think it was the number of posts that they had that made the vB slow...we'll just have to wait for the UBB to populate a little more then we can start ranting [ July 12, 2001 09:53 PM: Message edited by: GoTorankusuKu ]
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#74034
07/12/2001 11:11 PM
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#74035
07/12/2001 11:26 PM
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LOL this is great! its all i got to say, ive never seen wat ppl like in vB anyway
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#74036
07/12/2001 11:44 PM
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I think they have a brain. I agree with GoTo, I think they had too much space taken which slowed it down.
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#74037
07/12/2001 11:51 PM
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Hmm, we bash VB? Where? I want to see these threads.
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#74038
07/13/2001 12:34 AM
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This one, for instance.
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#74039
07/13/2001 12:52 AM
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I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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I am positive you'll find much fairer treatment of vB on this site than UBB™ gets on their site.
It's amazing how their posting policies on their site begin to mimick those of ubbdev and IP when they get even a little positive reaction regarding ubb in their forums. The same policies they enjoy slamming ubbdev and IP for... :rolleyes:
Anyways, yes, they switched to UBB, best of luck to them... do not start a vB vs. UBB slugfest in here or we'll need to hand out more pink slips.
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#74040
07/13/2001 2:44 AM
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Ok Ok but they seem to do it over there. Find that unfair they should stop to but their allowed.
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#74041
07/13/2001 4:18 AM
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Joined: Apr 2001
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Member / MultiHacker
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I guess that is what you can expect when the authors aren't in the US. "in favour of free speech" "abuse the privelidge". Their board, their rights to do what they want, but that statement made me laugh.
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#74042
07/13/2001 4:42 AM
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is it still ok to compaire the 2 in a non bashing way? O.o anyway i have set up a vB and a UBB and UBB is to my likeing. i just dont like the way vB looks or runs. [edit] i ment to say the way it runs on my servers[/edit] [ July 13, 2001 04:43 AM: Message edited by: Anime-loo ]
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#74043
07/13/2001 4:53 AM
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Year we hardly bash or taunt any forum companies on this board but the others are lets say a little more meaner.
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#74044
07/13/2001 7:51 AM
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I had both (vB leased though) and their both good, except that vB has way more features, and it has good speed included too. Though I'm glad UBB has no database stuff, it breaks my head
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#74045
07/13/2001 9:15 AM
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the only ppl worth bashin are thoese warez usin mooks
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#74046
07/13/2001 3:18 PM
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Just out of curiousity why won't UBB uses MySQL for their UBB?
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#74047
07/13/2001 3:43 PM
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Hiya certify, Your question has been answered several times here already (you know, you could have used the SEARCH command which is blazingly fast on vB but pathetically slow on UBB ). The answer is that UBB is designed to run on the widest set of servers possible. Many servers still don't support MySQL and that's the primary reason why. However, I do know of a person who converted Ultimate.cgi (UBB 5) to use a MySQL backend and is doing very well. His topics are pulled via PHP too (a PHP, mySQL UBB .. wow!). qasic
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#74048
07/13/2001 3:48 PM
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Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 874
Moderator / Developer
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Moderator / Developer
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ive taken a look at what it would take to convert a version 6 to using a SQL backend, and its not too bad. but im not gonna start a project like that with 6.1 just a few weeks off.
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#74049
07/13/2001 4:23 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
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I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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There are a few people looking to do this jordo, when 6.1 comes out. You might contact MasterMind when 6.1 is released to assist him in doing it. At least bounce ideas and trouble-shooting off each other.
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#74050
07/13/2001 8:18 PM
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UBBDev has 5 times as many members and posts, we're doing better. vB uses mySQL, and its NOT the mySQL that screws things up. Its the way vB handles mySQL. (I heard that from a real PRO on usenet)
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#74051
07/13/2001 9:25 PM
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A vB can get buggy sometimes and I'd say the mySQL does this, I don't think it's very reliable with a mySQL database.
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#74052
07/14/2001 3:05 PM
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#74053
07/14/2001 3:58 PM
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its still only 3500 users, they had more than that before.. i agree we have to wait and see what happens, may be interesting. (may be interesting also their upgrade to 6.1). it is handling 150 concurrent users though and sometimes i get cgi timeout here; this happening only with me?
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#74054
07/14/2001 8:51 PM
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lol sorry :(, Kinda act like that sometimes.
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#74055
07/15/2001 5:39 AM
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That concludes they use IIS, so it must be a Win2k or WinNT server. vB won't run very stable on a Win2k server now will it? I'm not sure though, no experience with vB on a Windows server. It does work smoothly on an Apache server though
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#74056
07/15/2001 11:55 AM
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Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 755
P.I.T.A. / Programmer
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I assume you mean "Apache on Unix" as there most certainly is an Apache server available for windows --mark
"Annnnnnnndd now, opening for Iron Maiden...... WYLD STALLYNS!!!" --Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted "Theodore " Logan
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#74057
07/15/2001 3:40 PM
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You're right, I'm sorry. But it's obvious Apache is mostly used on Unix
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#74058
07/15/2001 4:07 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,940
Developer
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vB works fine on any decent server on any platform whether it be Windows or UNIX. mySQL is supported on both platforms as is PHP.
qasic
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#74059
07/15/2001 9:32 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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as long as there's not too many concurrent users actually wanting to post something, eh?
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#74060
07/15/2001 10:58 PM
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You mean that vBulletin can't handle concurrent users very well?
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#74061
07/15/2001 11:05 PM
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Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3
I type Like navaho
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I type Like navaho
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That's not what I said... read cc's reply on the first page of this thread...
gonna close this thread as it has outlived its original topic... really don't want a bunch of quotes taken out of context...
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