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Most evil person ever... EVER! #81815 02/27/2002 8:31 AM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 LK Admin / Code Breaker LK Admin / Code Breaker Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 (Taken from another board) Who's the worst person ever, out of the following options? Options: Count Dracula (the real person!!!) Genghis Khan Kublai Khan Mao Zedong Joseph Stalin Adolf Hitler Saddam Hussein Osama bin Laden Yassir Arafat Bill Gates Other (reply) Oh, and my vote goes for Hitler, ofcourse.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81816 02/27/2002 9:26 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 3,594 College Jamin Moderator / Template Diva Jamin Moderator / Template Diva Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 3,594 College Dracula. That guy was a freaking psycho. ---Jamin Don't put that signature in your mouth! You don't know where it's been!

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81817 02/27/2002 9:48 AM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 745 Des Moines, IA Ron M Admin Emeritus Ron M Admin Emeritus Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 745 Des Moines, IA Bill Gates - just because he is!

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81818 02/27/2002 9:56 AM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 LK Admin / Code Breaker LK Admin / Code Breaker Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 quote: Originally posted by Sub Zero: Bill Gates - just because he is! So you think Billy is worse than Genghis Khan, Hitler, Dracula and Stalin?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81819 02/27/2002 10:17 AM Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,285 Northern California Stilgar Old Hand Stilgar Old Hand Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,285 Northern California Well... I took the poll seriously so.. I voted for Mao Zedong. He has a history worse then Hitler. I care not to go into detail, but if you do some research at any good college library, you'll find out what I'm talking about.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81820 02/27/2002 10:37 AM Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 170 The Netherlands Slasher Member Slasher Member Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 170 The Netherlands My vote goes for Stalin.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81821 02/27/2002 1:03 PM Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 157 yors Member yors Member Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 157 Hitler, surely, though I am quite fascinated by him and have read almost every good book about him Yors Truly Who? Me? Worry?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81822 02/27/2002 4:49 PM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 717 Texas via France| Bonjour, y'a... scats scattermidget scats scattermidget Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 717 Texas via France| Bonjour, y'a... Hitler. I might have been tempted to vote for Pol Pot, had he been on the list.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81823 02/27/2002 9:48 PM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 436 California | Blogger!! BloggerMan Member BloggerMan Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 436 California | Blogger!! Where's Charles Manson? O.o Hitler

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81824 02/27/2002 11:00 PM Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 825 Oxford, MI DJLunacy Member / CodeFixer DJLunacy Member / CodeFixer Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 825 Oxford, MI quote: Originally posted by scats: Hitler. I might have been tempted to vote for Pol Pot, had he been on the list. Thats why there is the "other" option BTW Pol Pot was a good suggestion

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81825 02/28/2002 12:25 AM Joined: May 2001 Posts: 6,708 Melbourne, Australia Lord Dexter Member Lord Dexter Member Joined: May 2001 Posts: 6,708 Melbourne, Australia Bill Gates ie EVIL, But not as Evil as Hitler. Killed so many people...eeewe.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81826 02/28/2002 7:56 AM Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 94 hmiguelito Member hmiguelito Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 94 my boss

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81827 03/01/2002 1:57 PM Joined: Jan 1999 Posts: 568 Cambridge, UK Sally Moderator / Fish Sally Moderator / Fish Joined: Jan 1999 Posts: 568 Cambridge, UK why aren't I on that list?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81828 03/02/2002 2:31 AM Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 572 JonNJapan Member JonNJapan Member Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 572 quote: Originally posted by Slasher: My vote goes for Stalin. I agree. Hitler killed 6 million, but Stalin killed 10 million people. Mao Tse-Tung would come in a close second though. ~Jon

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81829 03/02/2002 8:50 AM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 Bob Member / Eejit Bob Member / Eejit Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 Does anyone have linkage to any of the things these guys have done? I know about Hitler, Stalin and the more well known evils but I have never heard of Pol Pot, Count Dracula (He was real?), Kublai Khan or Mao Zedong? Excuse my ignorance but I have never heard of these people. And having Bill Gates in that list is just fscking stupid. If I'm leavin' with a broken heart you're leavin' with a broken nose ... ~ Jettingham - Cheating

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81830 03/02/2002 11:46 AM Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 717 Texas via France| Bonjour, y'a... scats scattermidget scats scattermidget Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 717 Texas via France| Bonjour, y'a... Here's a brief paragraph about Pol Pot and the Cambodian Killing Fields. Obviously there's tons more info out there, but I don't know how much you can stomach.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81831 03/02/2002 12:56 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 Bob Member / Eejit Bob Member / Eejit Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 I can stomach pretty much anything, I believe it's a requirement of being a 14 year old guy ... so come on with the gruesome linkage! If I'm leavin' with a broken heart you're leavin' with a broken nose ... ~ Jettingham - Cheating

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81832 03/02/2002 1:29 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 3,594 College Jamin Moderator / Template Diva Jamin Moderator / Template Diva Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 3,594 College quote: Originally posted by Bob: Count Dracula (He was real?) Yeah, he was real. He was a sadistic freak too. Here's a link, if you want it. http://members.aol.com/johnfranc/drac05.htm ---Jamin Don't put that signature in your mouth! You don't know where it's been!

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81833 03/02/2002 3:38 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 Bob Member / Eejit Bob Member / Eejit Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 195 Someone didn't get enough hugs as a child ... I still cannae make my mind up on "the worst" before I know about the rest of these psycho dudes. If I'm leavin' with a broken heart you're leavin' with a broken nose ... ~ Jettingham - Cheating

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81834 03/13/2003 2:57 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas AllenAyres I type Like navaho AllenAyres I type Like navaho Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas Stalin killed more than probably all the others put together. - Allen - What Drives You?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81835 03/13/2003 3:18 AM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK Charles Veteran Charles Veteran Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK reading the topic title I thought this was going to be about me Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81836 03/13/2003 12:38 PM Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,833 Likes: 20 Portland, OR, USA Gizmo UBBDev / UBBWiki Owner Time Lord Gizmo UBBDev / UBBWiki Owner Time Lord Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,833 Likes: 20 Portland, OR, USA Stalin and Hitler were terrible people but they were great leaders. Look at what they did, they both united countries that were in termoil. They both also did some great things... They were not just mass murderers. UBB.Dev - Putting Dev into UBB.threads Company: VNC Web Services - UBB.threads Scripts and Scripting, Install and Upgrade Services, Site and Server Maintenance. Forums: A Gardeners Forum, Scouters World, and UGN Security UBB.Threads: My UBB Themes, My UBB Scripts

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81837 03/13/2003 9:30 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK Charles Veteran Charles Veteran Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK hmm... but stalin had no real economical knowledge, after his reign the economic situation wasn't doing really great. Hitler in the other hand, I think, had very good counsellors and his economical situation might have been viable. Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81838 03/13/2003 11:50 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas AllenAyres I type Like navaho AllenAyres I type Like navaho Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas Hitler had an economic policy? You mean one besides 'rape, kill, pillage, and burn neighboring countries and take what they have'? The whole 'mass-murdering' part is what led to the demise and fall of his country. Of course it took longer with stalin and his successors since the League of Nations and UN chose to look the other way. Hitler's 'unification' ruined his country for generations, doesn't sound like much of a leader to me. - Allen - What Drives You?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81839 03/14/2003 2:31 AM Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,285 Northern California Stilgar Old Hand Stilgar Old Hand Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 2,285 Northern California Quote quote: Originally posted by AllenAyres: Stalin killed more than probably all the others put together. I believe Mao Zedong killed more then all the others combind. A lot has been hidden behind The Wall.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81840 03/14/2003 4:16 AM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK Charles Veteran Charles Veteran Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK this comes down to, extremes, what ever they are or might be, are no good. Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81841 03/14/2003 8:00 AM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 LK Admin / Code Breaker LK Admin / Code Breaker Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 Quote quote: Originally posted by Gizzy: Stalin and Hitler were terrible people but they were great leaders. Look at what they did, they both united countries that were in termoil. They both also did some great things... They were not just mass murderers. Oh joy, they killed like 20 million people but they got some extreme Germans/Russians to unite together against humanity

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81842 03/14/2003 8:36 AM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 PrimeTime Member PrimeTime Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 I agree with LK...I don't think Stalin and Hitler were "great" leaders. They used their brain and charisma for evil acts of hatred in its purist form. These two are by no means role models for aspiring leaders to be. Since the Holocaust seems to be the focus my pick would be Joseph Mengele.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81843 03/14/2003 10:28 AM Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,833 Likes: 20 Portland, OR, USA Gizmo UBBDev / UBBWiki Owner Time Lord Gizmo UBBDev / UBBWiki Owner Time Lord Joined: Jan 2000 Posts: 5,833 Likes: 20 Portland, OR, USA I disagree to an extent... As I stated they were terrible people for what they had done, if you put that aside for 3 seconds and look at what they did OTHER than, as allen put it, 'rape pillage & plunder' you actually see that they made their countries better (for a time man, for a time!)... UBB.Dev - Putting Dev into UBB.threads Company: VNC Web Services - UBB.threads Scripts and Scripting, Install and Upgrade Services, Site and Server Maintenance. Forums: A Gardeners Forum, Scouters World, and UGN Security UBB.Threads: My UBB Themes, My UBB Scripts

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81844 03/14/2003 10:42 AM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 PrimeTime Member PrimeTime Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 I'm sure Ted Bundy was a nice guy at one time in his life too.

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81845 03/14/2003 4:30 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas AllenAyres I type Like navaho AllenAyres I type Like navaho Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas maybe when he was 3. Hitler's 'time' of making his country better only came about because he was able to dupe his people into believing they were the superior race. It was all a sham and he brought much more harm and evil to his country than any small amount of good. Germany is still trying to live that one down... Stalin's 20 million dead outweigh any good he did, even as a child. - Allen - What Drives You?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81846 03/14/2003 5:05 PM Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 LK Admin / Code Breaker LK Admin / Code Breaker Joined: Mar 2001 Posts: 7,394 Quote quote: Originally posted by AllenAyres: Stalin's 20 million dead outweigh any good he did, even as a child. He didn't even help some geezers cross the road?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81847 03/14/2003 9:54 PM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas AllenAyres I type Like navaho AllenAyres I type Like navaho Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 21,079 Likes: 3 Texas only if it was to pile their bodies in mass graves. - Allen - What Drives You?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81848 03/14/2003 10:20 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK Charles Veteran Charles Veteran Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK and in your list don't forget Dr Evil Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81849 03/14/2003 10:27 PM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 PrimeTime Member PrimeTime Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 Mike Myers?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81850 03/14/2003 10:36 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK Charles Veteran Charles Veteran Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 2,667 London, UK I mean doesn't he look really mean Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again?

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81851 03/14/2003 10:56 PM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 PrimeTime Member PrimeTime Member Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,080 Hahaa...

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81852 03/15/2003 7:19 AM Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,704 CTM Moderator / Da Masta CTM Moderator / Da Masta Joined: Nov 2001 Posts: 1,704 Hitler. By far. He killed about 50 of my relatives during the 1940s, so I guess it's something personal. However, even if I wasn't of Yugoslav origin, I'd probably still say Hitler. But there's someone even worse... "I shall call him... Mini-Me!"

Re: Most evil person ever... EVER! #81853 03/19/2003 9:03 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,309 Alberta, Canada Bookie Member / Blamoholic Bookie Member / Blamoholic Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 1,309 Alberta, Canada Quote quote: Originally posted by JonNJapan: I agree. Hitler killed 6 million, but Stalin killed 10 million people. Mao Tse-Tung would come in a close second though. Not quite... Hitler killed about 6 million Jews, and about 5 million other minority groups within his grasp. However, Stalin killed between 30-40 million people... it is really unknown because statistics were not kept well in the USSR. Most people overlook Stalin's wrath because it is not publicized as much as Hitlers, I think that is because the U.S at one time was supporting Stalin. quote: [qb]Originally posted by Gizzy: I disagree to an extent... As I stated they were terrible people for what they had done, if you put that aside for 3 seconds and look at what they did OTHER than, as allen put it, 'rape pillage & plunder' you actually see that they made their countries better (for a time man, for a time!)...[/qb] Hitler did not help Germany that much, partly he was able to come into power because of the depression at the time, and his ability to use one of the key elements of dictatorship, direct of popular discontent to blame the problems of Germany on the Jews, minorities, and of course the communists. The only reason it looked like Hitler helped Germany so much was because the unemployment rates of "citizens" was deacresed to about 3% of the population... I put citizens in quotes because he eliminated all of the Jews from being citizens in the Nuremburg laws, and the rest of the German citizens who didn't have jobs were to join the army. Stalin did some good, but it does not at all justify the casualties that it caused. Also, his idea of collectivization actually made the food situation worst because the farmers that owned many farms refused to abide, so Stalin killed many of them, and many were also deported. Mao Zedong, I know somewhat about... but I don't think he has killed as many people as Stalin. I have to say that he has to be one of the worst leaders in history. Not only because the re-education camps, or the whole pedophile thing, though that is very wrong, he was not the brightest. Like when he tried to industrialize China to get more citizens on his side, he set out tons of propaganda to get people to make steel. While everyone was creating steel, they forgot to grow food, resulting in somewhat of The Great Famine situation in Stalin's reign. Okay I'm done. I vote Stalin, talking about this stuff interests me.