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Alright this is REALLY Frustrating...

I putting in a new cpu fan and now my graphics card doesn't work. It's a MSI Geforce 4 ti 4200 64MB. The graphics card's onboard fan comes on and all, it's just the monitor doesn't come on.

Now here's the wierd part: i tried putting in my old voodoo 3 3000 card and it works fine.

It just doesn't make any sense...

Couldn't be a power supply prob. I have 300 watts and only currently have the bear minimum essentials attached.

If the card is PCI try another slot. If it is AGP you will need to test it in another PC.

Also you can try removing ALL NVidia drivers and use the vanilla VGA drivers that came with your OS.

You might have fried it

Keep the power on on the machine for a while - I bet it will, eventually, go through POST and start booting, at which point the monitor will get a signal.

I also bet that you just switched from a PCI card to an AGP card. The system is still looking for the PCI card to boot from.

Good thought CC Reminds me to also mention to check your BIOS settings to make sure it is looking in the right spot.

Thanks for the responses!

Both the video cards are AGP. I seriously HOPE i didn't fry the card I can't see how. I tried booting without the fan. I'm gonna try what CC said.

I'm crossing my fingers. :

Wait a minute. You said you put in a new cpu fan and now your graphics card will not work?



Was this graphics card working fine before the new cpu fan? unplug the new cpu fan and go back to the old one. Does everything work now as it used to? If so you need more power supply.

I think he means a graphics card fan. Atleast I hope that's what he means, since that makes sense..

Yea, keep it on and see if it'll do POST eventually. I hope you didnt fry the card too, that's not a cheap piece of hardware.
Ofcourse, booting without the fan is not the best idea.

Alright that didn't work... I left in for about 5 minutes and nothing happened.

It doesn't make sense. I bought it about 20 or so days ago and MSI is a reliable company! Later tonight i'm gonna try it on a friends computer.

Can motherboards go bad? I'm using a gateway motherboard(yes, i know ) which is about 2 years old. I think it's one of those indeo 2 motherboards, i think... Well, it was about a week ago when the both my cd-roms(a 16x dvd, and cdrw) stopped being detected by BIOS. I flash updated the BIOS last month to the latest, so it probably isn't that. I thought that maybe the secondary IDE pins may be screwed(which is what i had them on, of course), but i was able to get the hard drive to run off of it.

It's like everything i've modified on this board is being slowly rejected! I've got another motherboard(Abit VP6) which just needs a processor. The friend that i'm gonna test it on is a VP6, so if it works i'll be happy.

I accidentally fried my mobo when going from a Celeron 300 to a P2-450.... and the symptoms match exactly.

if your motherboard is an ABIT try reseting the BIOS using the jumper on the motherboard. Usually that does the trick for me when the monitor doesn't come up

brett:
GeForce Graphiccards tend to need a great peak power to startup. So if you use a large CPU fan (something like a 80x80 fan) and you've got that attached to your mainboard the system may require more then 300Watts to boot successfully.
The real problem is, that all components need more power while powering up than during normal operations.

Otherwise, yes, a mainboard may die slowly due to heat or dust. A layer of dust can short a few circuits and cause the funniest symptoms in irregular patterns.

I had a server to fix, which lost the harddisks, cdroms and tape drives at random. The cause was a thick layer of dust on the mb which shortet a few circuits in the vicinity of the on-board SCSI controller.

I'd try the graphics card in a different system to check if it is not fried.
If it is still okay, try your system with a larger power supply and the geforce 4.
If that still doesn't work, change the motherboard.

HTH

Cheers,

Scotty