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You have a point about register globals and yes this is how vb3 is going to be encoded. It is really a matter of timing. I believe the first version of wwwthreads need register globals on and as has vbulletin. The next version won't. In the end register globals being off does not make something more secure if it coded properly, it is just an added precaution. I can assue you vb3 has been written from the ground up with register globals off however.


Your query stats are distored by using vbulletin.org really. It has completly and utterly hacked to bits. This does not aid in keeping query numbers down. I don't know how hacked this site is, I am not sure where the demo is or if this is what it looks like out of the box or not. But even so, on my site the profile query is half that. And sure there are more queries in a number of places but this generally corresponds to more features. Some of these extra queries (about 3 i believe) are used every page for features such as cobranding, phpinclude templates, sessions and the like.

But even so, you are again just harking on about query numbers which in the grand scheme of things are irrelevant. You argued that vbulletin is server intensive but have yet again not shown me an example of this being a particular problem. If you post some very large wwwhtreads forums i make take your comments more seriously.

I mean take an example here: someone using the current version of threads:
http://community.infopop.net/2/Open...m=7313049884&r=8423080984#8423080984

is dieing with a dual PIII 800mhz server with 1GB ram and only 90 users online.

Again you make completly unsubstantiated claims about "getting the code base fixed". The javascript fix for example that i mentioned is one that every product needed a fix for. UBB was late in applying it by the sounds of it and www.ubbdev.com was hacked bceause of it. Suggesting that something is insecure because they have releases is rediculous.

Either way from what I can gather you have slightly changed track. instead of suggesting that vbulletin as bad for the server:

" I don't think you'll find very many threads sites with the same number of concurrent users needing more than one decent server - especially on a v6 site. "

and not providing proof of this you now are just arguing on the basis of raw number of queries - this might be an indicating factor but hardly gives that much evidence. Provide some evidence like I asked for in my previous post to gain some credibility.

Oh and on bugs, in posting here 4 times I have found 2 so far. The first is the email replies thing popped out html in my email I had <BR /> stuff and image links to smilies. And secondly the nav bits on this reply page is broken. The thread is linked to:
https://ubbdev.com/threads/php/...age=&view=&sb=&o=&fpart=

which 404s for me.

Just a heads up.

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Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Medar 04/17/2002 3:59 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Rick 04/17/2002 5:07 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Medar 04/17/2002 5:50 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Pappy 04/17/2002 9:22 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Medar 04/17/2002 10:23 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... coloradok5 04/19/2002 5:29 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 04/19/2002 8:15 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... coloradok5 04/19/2002 8:16 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... TRex 05/01/2002 5:16 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/05/2002 7:18 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/05/2002 8:52 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/05/2002 9:00 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... msula 05/05/2002 11:25 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/06/2002 2:08 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/06/2002 5:36 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/06/2002 12:36 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/06/2002 7:37 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/06/2002 8:34 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Rick 05/06/2002 11:04 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/06/2002 11:06 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... heretic_dup1 05/07/2002 1:54 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Prohacker 05/07/2002 2:11 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/07/2002 2:53 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... ogg 05/07/2002 3:34 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/07/2002 3:42 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Wandrer 05/07/2002 3:49 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/07/2002 3:52 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Wandrer 05/07/2002 4:38 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/07/2002 4:53 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/07/2002 2:23 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/07/2002 5:46 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Ian_W 05/07/2002 7:31 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/08/2002 1:28 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/08/2002 1:33 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/08/2002 1:42 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/08/2002 9:26 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Wandrer 05/08/2002 3:43 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Rick 05/08/2002 4:48 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/08/2002 7:08 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/08/2002 10:47 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/08/2002 11:02 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/10/2002 5:02 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/10/2002 6:15 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/10/2002 7:43 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... padders 05/11/2002 1:15 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Conrad 05/15/2002 9:41 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Conrad 05/23/2002 12:27 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AllenAyres 05/23/2002 6:18 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Anno 01/27/2004 2:12 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... AKD96 01/28/2004 6:55 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Anno 01/29/2004 7:19 PM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... ghubbell 01/30/2004 1:13 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Charles Capps 01/30/2004 1:25 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... ghubbell 01/30/2004 2:30 AM
Re: Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc... Anno 02/04/2004 12:56 AM

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