UBB.Developers Forums General Discussion Suggestions and Feedback Need comparisons - UBBThreads vs Vbulletin, etc...

Allen, i gave you a list of points to give some evidence for. All you have said so far is that vbulletin has more queries but have yet to show me why this matters. You have not given any evidence that vbulletin is more resource intensive than threads is, so what does it matter that it uses more queries?

Why does it use more queries? Well there is a base need for more queries on all of the pages, for example the template system is stored in mysql. I believe that you now have a template system but it does not use mySQL so less queries. (I am sure you will say that this makes it better but can counter that if you so wish). Other things such as multiple template sets, cobranding, replacement variables being independant from templates etc all add to the raw number of queries that must be done one every single page. Sure it adds extra queries, but then it adds very useful features and we don't get many reports of people having performance problems.

Without doing an investigative search of the differences between every single page it is hard to know where all the other query differences are. vBulletin has I believe a more robust permissions system. You can see a discussion about this at vbulletin.com that references a discussion about the permissions you can't set for moderators. Permissions, require extra queries.

So yes you have less queries because you have less features. Bar the number of new threads/posts on the index page, something that I have always wanted in vbulletin as it is very useful, I can't see many other features you guys might have that are missing in vb and a few the other way round. So that is why we have more queries.

So there, more queries. I accept that. But I think you really need to somehow show that the performance of a forum is based solely on how many queries it has as this is the only evidence you are giving to back up why vbulletin is more resource hungry than anything else. You have not.