didn't mean to offend anyone. the point i was trying to make is that it isn't that hard to put together a portal of your own w/ the wide availability of pre-built scripts on the web. true most of those scripts will require PHP, but it is possible. i'm sure that if everyone that is *patiently* waiting here would band together and devise a solution it could be achieved in no time. someone (i think mi_tucker) mentioned that they had a semi-functional portal running within 5 minutes.