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IE unstable with 6.0.1 #220019 06/28/2002 10:50 PM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	Some of my users (and even for myself) are experiencing instances when IE will just crash whenever we make a new post or reply to posts.. this problem is particularly acute when we use the 'instant graemlims'. Any ideas what's the problem?

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Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 palmen #220029 06/30/2002 9:42 AM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	okay, personally i have only experienced it twice since i have installed the upgrade 3 weeks ago. my users are the ones who have been complaining about it... and they seem to be having fun posting about it every time they got the Illegal ops message box i guess for them, the probabilty of them encountering this is much higher, cos they basically use this more like a chat board...... but i will see if i can re-experience the illegal ops here (in the test board)...

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220030 06/30/2002 12:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 305 Michigan, USA Lisa_P Enthusiast
Lisa_P Enthusiast Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 305 Michigan, USA	I use IE 6 and Netscape 7, on WinXP. I haven't had a single crash on either browser with any of the 6.0 betas or 6.0.1, after at least a couple hundred posts now. Granted, I don't use the instant graemlins very often (I'm so used to just typing them ), but I have used them, as well as the instant markup codes. The error code you posted is often linked with a problem with javascript or a problem with an incorrectly placed anchor on the page. Is this always happening during a new post or new reply? Or when people are reading as well? Do you use any other javascript on the pages? Have you tried editing the templates to take out the instant graemlins, and see if the errors still occur? Personal note -- It drives me nuts when members think that because they've gotten an error it must be something we're doing on purpose. As if we have nothing better to do than to see if we can crash their browser? Our website tends to get particularly paranoid persons. I'm crossing my fingers now hoping I don't start getting 50 emails a day from people whose browsers have crashed. [:"red"]Lisa[/]

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220031 07/01/2002 12:08 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX DreamLord Lurker
DreamLord Lurker Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX	When you get page faults go to MS Knowledge Base and copy the error message into the search form. Select full search and you almost always get a result that helps. How much it helps is the real question. Here is what you get for that error under the cause section. ---- Copyed from MS Knowledge base article Q265244 This can be caused by an XML file that uses an XSL file to create either an anchor tag (A) set to change the right frame or element that calls Window.open ("URL", "rightframe"). This only happens if the right frame is currently pointing to a page located on another domain. If the page is on the same domain, it works fine until the page changes to a separate domain. ----------- I don't know if that's any help but threads is using xhtml. I'm betting that Miscrosoft uses an XSL file to translate xhtml into html before putting it into the Modzilla engine. With that in mind you might want to check into the templates and make sure your html is good xhtml. You can also tell your users to upgrade when they complain.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 mcgarage #220032 07/01/2002 12:13 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX DreamLord Lurker
DreamLord Lurker Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX	As I was closing MS Knowledge base this article caught my eye. Check it out. Q276393

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 sjsaunders #220033 07/01/2002 12:17 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX DreamLord Lurker
DreamLord Lurker Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 3 Dallas TX	Actually that's not entirely correct the VM is for Java not JavaScript. They are 2 different languages. Sun makes Java and JavaScipt came from Netscape. Altough you are right an update will fix the problem

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 mcgarage #220034 07/17/2002 5:28 AM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	Hi folks, I have just installed a clean installation of UBBThreads 6.0.2 and initiated a team of 4 volunteer users to attempt to crash this. In the two days that they used. One of the users have reported a crash using IE 6.0. I have now extended the data collection to the present users (all 2309 of them) within the not-so-clean installation of 6.0.1, asking them for the OS used, the browser used and what they were doing at that time. Will report back on it. I am actually more interested in what my clean-installation tester can glean.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220035 07/17/2002 11:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 305 Michigan, USA Lisa_P Enthusiast
Lisa_P Enthusiast Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 305 Michigan, USA	I'll keep my fingers crossed that 6.0.2 solves most of your problems. I've been running it for more than a week with just over 3500 members and I have less than a handful that are having any problems. (I don't believe these are browser related though.) [:"red"]Lisa[/]

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 JacquiL #220036 07/17/2002 12:17 PM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	this is one comment from one of my 6.0.2 user Re: how, got crash a not? From: babybear WinXP Pro, IE6 and i was replying to a post. Generally i felt that it was much smoother and faster and up to now i only got 1 error.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220037 07/18/2002 8:52 PM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	This comment is from one of the users using the 6.0.1 crash From: xiaojava my browser crashes whenever i post a msg using Internet Explorer 6.......i m using Win Xp....thanx

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220038 07/18/2002 9:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,759 Lansing, Michigan msula Addict
msula Addict Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,759 Lansing, Michigan	Hmm... still have not had a single problem with any users here, I use IE6 and winxp and v6 threads.. Still don't know what might cause it

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 palmen #220039 07/21/2002 9:36 AM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	Another comment... this time from user in the 6.0.1 ubbthreads. another of my testers from 6.0.2 have reported crashes in posting/replying.. i wonder why it does not happen in any other functions... why only in replies and new posts???? Is it safe to say that the problem is isolated in the mentioned functionality? So far no users of mine have complained about the forums crashing in any other window. RE: Forum crashing From: typewritter My browser version is Internet Explorer 5 and I am using Windows 98.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220040 07/21/2002 2:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Southern California Aglavalin Enthusiast
Aglavalin Enthusiast Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Southern California	I use win98 and ie 5.5 and have never had a browser crash on 6.0.1 or 6.0.2 I have also never gotten any crash complaints from any of my board users. Are these people who are crashing using some 'hacked' version of IE, such as one from AOL or one that comes installed on a computer and is altered by the manufacturer? In my experiences, most versions altered by others than the creators are unstable. Even if you upgrade off of a hacked version, it will probably leave behind stuff that will make it unstable.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 neuron #220041 07/21/2002 9:40 PM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	most of my users are students (from 13 years to university level). Most likely they are using PCs from their school labs (which in Singapore means using IE). In singapore, most of the time, the IE is supplied with the PC by the manufacturer. Hmm... perhaps one reason why the crashes could have happened more frequently is because my users use the forum like an IRC.... a lot a lot of replies and posts, so the odds of getting an error by IE is higher (perhaps).

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220042 07/21/2002 11:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 91 Roaming the deserts of lower c... lurch_dup1 Journeyman
lurch_dup1 Journeyman Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 91 Roaming the deserts of lower c...	I am on Win 98 and IE 5.5, no crashes here. ------------- Youuuuuuuuuuu Rang?

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 #220043 07/22/2002 1:30 AM
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Southern California Aglavalin Enthusiast
Aglavalin Enthusiast Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 375 Southern California	Hmm, another thought. If you allow html to be used in posts or signatures, people could put some bad code or javascript in which could be causing the crashes. I have all html turned off on my board ever since some punk kid put a REFRESH metatag in for a joke. I got a few complaints about that, lol

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 neuron #220044 07/22/2002 3:29 AM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	hmm.. the boards without html?? hmm.. that's a very weighty decision. I will try it out on my core testing group first...

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220046 07/24/2002 11:21 AM
Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore benruth User
benruth User Joined: May 2001 Posts: 16 Singapore	Hi folks, another very interesting observation from one of the 6.0.1 end users. Re: The frequent crashes are really starting to irritate me. [re: Takumi] Wed Jul 24 2002 11:53 PM (203.125.54.246) Edit Reply i'm running XP and use broadband....mine crashes when i multitask.... i.e. ICQ while submitting a post, or some other programs. Usually or never happens when I wait till a post is fully submitted, before I switch apps using alt-tab. reading while switching does not seem to be a problem though (not very sure)

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 azerxin #220047 07/24/2002 11:22 PM
Joined: May 1999 Posts: 3,039 Olympia, WA Rick Guru
Rick Guru Joined: May 1999 Posts: 3,039 Olympia, WA	The only thing that I think could be causing this would be the javascript for the instant graemlins and markup. Those are only on the newpost/newreply screens. Other than that, it's just straight HTML. Strange thing is I've never had a crash and I use a variety of IE versions under XP, 2000 and 98. UBB.threads Developer

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1

Sally #220048 07/26/2002 2:14 PM

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Hello Scream

Some of my users reported that the instant graemlin is not working for the grin, ooo, and confused icons. They are show up like :: only on the body.

Here is the java script source they took when browsing using IE 6.

code:


<a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); 
document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/smile.gif" border="0" alt="smile" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/frown.gif" border="0" alt="frown" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/blush.gif" border="0" alt="blush" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/laugh.gif" border="0" alt="laugh" /></a> 
        <br /><a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/wink.gif" border="0" alt="wink" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/tongue.gif" border="0" alt="tongue" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/cool.gif" border="0" alt="cool" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/crazy.gif" border="0" alt="crazy" /></a> 
        <br /><a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/mad.gif" border="0" alt="mad" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, '  '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/shocked.gif" border="0" alt="shocked" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, ' :: '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, ' :: '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/grin.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a> 
        <br /><a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, ' :: '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/ooo.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a> 
        <a href="javascript:void(0)" onClick="insertAtCaret(document.replier.Body, ' :: '); document.replier.Body.focus();"><img src="/forumimages/icons/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" /></a>

They are using IE Version : 6.0.2600.0000 and
I have no problem using IE 5.5

* sorry for a mess

...... x ......
Using UBBt 6.4.2 + Digg Ajax Mod, Trust Ajax Mod, Captcha Regristation & Login mod, Checkusername Ajax mode.

Re: IE unstable with 6.0.1 often #220049 07/27/2002 12:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 129 Asia santana Member
santana Member Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 129 Asia	Please disregard ny last post. It has been solved. they were not in the language pack. I guess I didn't upload the whole 6.0x pack when I upgraded from 5.x to 6.x Sorry ...... x ...... Using UBBt 6.4.2 + Digg Ajax Mod, Trust Ajax Mod, Captcha Regristation & Login mod, Checkusername Ajax mode.

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