Yeah. Excatly right. The success of UBB and vb I think is the layout and graphics. Phorum has been around for a long time but never take off because the layout design is poor (IMHO).
Let's consider getting the Infopop guys to make many many sets of good w3t themes (and I know they are going to charge for it - that's why I don't like them, I'd rather code it myself) and I think people will start to realise how much better w3t is comparing to UBB.
And I really do think if there is a flatfile db version of w3t that have all the features but doesn't require mySQL, no one will want to look at UBB. []/testimages/icons/tongue.gif[/]